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Thank you! I found it via those early footages from those new reels, but the rest of it was very artificially inflated to last 15 minutes, so I spaced out for some parts of the rest of the video.

Yup!
What is funny is that it was still above average for a YT video. At least it was not totally fake news, but just an over-inflated fluff piece “for the algorithm” (YouTube has a much more favourable behaviour towards videos of 10+ minutes, in terms of monetization).

I agree with both of you on that. :slight_smile:
The only point I am adding is that some things are only good to get an issue to your attention. Then, if you find the matter to your interest, it is (for better or for worse) in your own hands to do the heavy lifting and look things up. Even if the article/video is of better value, you still have to put in the work because, at the end of the day, even a very well made video/article can be wrong or misleading.

I also agree on the fixable part. :slight_smile:
Most of the times now issues seem to be made “for the outrage”, but it is always good to remember that “the news” are not there to just pass the time or distract or aggravate us, but to inform us that “problem X exists - it is probably fixable” and depending on whether it affects us or not, we then go about and see if there is something we need to do or learn on the situation.

I really miss the kinds of news that were very dry and to the point. “This happened, this is the problem, whoever is in charge is trying to fix it, we will keep you updated. Moving on to the next item…”

That would have been some real top-notch investigative journalism. I’d really like that to be the norm, but unfortunately it is very rare nowadays.

haha that’s the funny thing. It did (hence those short TV footages at the beginning) and they did seem to be the kinds of “1 minute reportage” kind of things too, so you are quite on the money there :slight_smile:
So, what most probably happened is, that fellow show those small coverages, took the issue and run with it… or, to be exact, walked down the street and talked vaguely about it.

It is more likely what you said earlier. Unlike the usual “I was a normal person that lost everything” kind of immigrant (which is mostly powerless, thus the politicians feel like they can bully them), the politicians and reporters do not tend to mess with foreigners that come from an actual fighting background.

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Here is a recent report from PIX11 TV on actions to address some of the problems in the Roosevelt Ave. neighborhood.

Here is an illuminating interview with the NYPD assistant chief of detectives about TDA activity that has spread to Times Square and Central Park. This is the same Venezuelan gang involved in the notorious events in Aurora Colorado and Chicago.

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I agree, and was surprised that Yebellz wasted so much effort deconstructing an obviously fake click-bait cover. However, the video content is drawn in large part from news reports by PIX11 TV and the local CBS News affiliate.

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Well, I simply assumed that you might not have been aware. It’s been a pretty common trend that such things are being widely shared, perhaps such viral patterns indicate that many have been fooled. I thought that it might be helpful (for you and others) to point out some of these tell-tale signs.

Even some high-profile people have either been fooled, or possibly knowingly, share such fake images, however damning that may be

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I do know something about fake-photo tells from the pre-digital era, things like unnatural lighting and uneven sharpness, because of a long-ago acquaintance with a photo analyst in the intelligence community. However, I’m not a techie, and tells aside from the technical also exist. As soon as I saw the cover photo of the video, I knew it was a fantasy construction; if National Guard troops were marching down a New York street, we would have heard about it in the mainstream media (as bad as it is, I don’t think the media would pass up such a story). This took about 1-2 seconds. I clicked on the video because of the connection with Venezuelan gangs. I remember the attack on the NY policeman earlier in the year, so I remain interested in any updates on the subject.

BTW, it has been reported that the “Mexican Mafia” has authorized the killing of TDA members because they are muscling in on their action. It seems the world is reverting to the 1930s, both internationally and domestically.

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next step: instead of just generating high quality fake photo directly, AI would first generate story that is possible to believe and only then would picture it. So it would never create too unusual “photo”.

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That’s the original “disinformation” technique, used by the Soviets as far back as the 1980s.

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Kramnik “accusing” Naroditsky has really been kicking off over the last week or so too

Lots of videos, interviews, responses etc

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now exactly “news”, but it is a good overview of the issue that is slowly creeping up on us…

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The resulting floodwaters caused the deaths of more than 205 people,[1] including 202 in the province of Valencia,[31] two more in Castile-La Mancha[32] and one in Andalusia.[33][34][35] According to provisional figures by the Valencian government, based on calls to an emergency number regarding missing family members, around 1,900 people have been declared missing;[36] five more people are also missing in Castilla–La Mancha.[30] Among the missing were 16 members of Spain’s Romanian community.[37]

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Me: Can we have a Halloween parade?

Mom: We have a Halloween parade at home

Halloween parade at home:

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Do you want an angry mob? 'Cause, this is how you get an angry mob…

please disperse safely

Oh, well… THAT’LL solve it

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As far as I can tell from various news reports, the crowds did seem to eventually disperse safely without much incident.

There is an interesting story about the AI generated garbage that seems to be behind the hoax

https://www.kxan.com/news/ai-slop-site-sends-thousands-in-ireland-to-fake-halloween-parade/

Maybe they were never intending to deceive people into attending a fake parade. Instead, it seems that they were just intending to deceive search engine ranking and advertising algorithms into giving their website more prominence and money.

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Imagine if you deceived people into voting for a certain presidential candidate and then claimed you were just planning to deceive search engine ranking and advertising algorithms :slight_smile:

Somehow, deceiving algorithms to show fake ads to people and fake search results and tricking people seem to go hand in hand to me :slight_smile:

They’re calling us scammers, saying that we scammed. This was not on purpose!

We asked ChatGPT to write the article for us, but it wasn’t ChatGPT by itself. So we took help from AI, we took help from ChatGPT, but we optimized that ourselves.

It is our mistake. We should double check it. Not only double, but triple check it.

Listen to me. If we wanted to scam people, we can easily do so by selling fake tickets. But we never mentioned any tickets on the website. That would be very simple, but we didn’t even mention the ticket thing.

I mean that doesn’t really fill me with confidence, despite them repeating over and over that they’re not scammers, and that we should just ask them instead.

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I think it’s on purpose that he’s using the word “scam” and “scammers” so often in this interview. Remember, this is an SEO guy.

He knows that people will search for his name and his website’s name together with words like “scam”, so he makes sure that this Wired interview will rank high for those search terms on Google, because that helps him minimize the damage.

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Reminds me of this

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A good/calm analysis by CNN with some very interesting data.

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