now you are getting it – had to devise a new game to keep myself interested - when all else had failed
If I may ask … it‘s been a long time since I suggested that you check out the really good “Learn To Play Go” interactive tutorial on OGS – have you ever tried it out meanwhile? It is REALLY good, and it‘s FUN also.
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I have on occasion tried those you speak of and so far have got to level three of the lessons, and they sometimes are helpful, but most times they don’t really give any idea how to have a strategy to win a game concept-- its great for basic play on set pieces and setups it seems to make sense but on real scenrios of games played they don’t seem to have much that i can use. at least thats what i see when i try those lessons you speak off here and on other game sites also i have tried – i will try again maybe to push a little harder in some of the advanced stages oft the lesson see what it hold s for me there -
try to if you have time-- to look at a couple of my latest starts but only in 28 day games to see if you see a change the short games nothing has changed – the longer games iam trying harder to develop a strategy to gain more control of the board – let me know what you think
@dokbohm I think the real point @trohde and @FritzS are trying to make is if you dedicated half the time you spend commenting in the forum to actually COMPLETING the beginner course things would go better for you. Not to mention the time you’ve spent in those last 28 games.. Put work into the lessons before you complain about how bad your progress is.
Here is a 15min video I really liked about how to open in a game. Watch this and apply it to you games and don’t disregard 2000 years of GO opening theory (Corners-sides-center) in search of your “own” style.
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i will watch this video maybe it has something i can learn and use thanks for the tip on this video-as far a wasting time posting i feel its to the betterment of all if i point out my flaws and show everyone here is not 7k or 3 dan player and the only way this game is to grow is to include better ways of teaching to get going along the path of leaning go — not just the same old same system of teaching- its not the content of the lessons thats the problem its the way it is taught thats the problem with most newbies starting then quiting and going back to chess or other games they played before – the numbers need to increase - like chess has in the last couple of years to sustant new aveneus of success in spreading the word of go to the masses – and not just for young people but people of all ages - but then these are just my thoughts on the matter and yes i need better instruction to get over my )(*&^%$#@ way of playing- maybe this video will start me on the path of enlightenemnt of what you all seem to keep hidden form the masses of begineers that follow your ridgid way of learning – but then again you might be right and their is only one path to follow to get better at go -----i hope not ----
I’m pretty sure that you and also @trohde (and many others, including myself for some time in the past) significantly overestimate what’s actually possible here.
From the moderately structured posts @dokbohm is making here on the forum and from him pretending to listen, pretending to really trying to learn, pretending to trying different strategies in his games and pretending to think before making a move one might conclude that he should be able to get at least a rudimentary understanding of the game.
However, by now we have seen at numerous occasions that his potential when it comes to Go is entirely disconnected from what he pretends being capable of here on the forum and is probably more somewhere around the level of a three to five year old child instead.
Let me give you one example: In this post I raised questions around the fundamental concepts of the game. In particular, I did ask the following:
To which he replied:
The issue is not so much that the answer was not correct. The issue is that he did not even begin to engage with the question really.
When looking at his games, you typically see that he mostly ignores the moves his opponents are making and that he is trying to “paint” shapes on the board with his stones instead: lines, circles, crosses and so on. He already knows where to put his next stone according to the shape he is “drawing” long before his opponent has made their move.
It very much resembles what is called the “planned scribbling”-phase in children.
But instead of openly and honestly acknowledging his limitations, he continues pretending here on the forum, misleading people into taking his Go ambitions more seriously than they actually are.
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wow maybe you should hang out a shingle and set up practice figuring people out – and then maybe your right
@dokbohm In every discipline there are fundamentals and if you ignore these while learning you will fail. (Unless you’re a virtuoso, which in GO you are not). So YES, pay attention to the “outdated” teaching methods.
You talk like its the responsibility of this forum/server to teach you how to play GO. While it’s in our collective interest to promote and facilitate the game to newcomers each of us is ultimately responsible for our own progression. Furthermore you accused the senior players of “hiding the secrets of enlightenment from the masses”, which is conspiratorial and laughable. People have dedicated their time and effort to teach you so do not disrespect that.
Go to Gomagic.org they have perhaps the best overall training available for westerners.
To be frank, your unwillingness to heed to advice given, coupled with your criticism of how the community should do more for you paints you as a #troll 
You and I started playing (apparently) at around the same time and in your early posts (as @NEWOLDGUY ) I sympathised with you on how hard it is to get an initial foothold on the abstract strategy and tactics of this game. The fact that it’s difficult is what makes it beautiful. It’s time for you to take the ample advice given by the community and stop the trolling
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Maybe try the tutorial on another, new, Go server:
There you have a tutor voice talking to you – and telling you that your move is excellent (if you played the right move, that is) … maybe that’s an incentive 
MUCH better than all the sincere folks here giving you good advice 
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OK I WILL TRY THIS SITE THANKS FOR THE TIP ON IT
well i tried the site and even though the lessons where very basic the coaching part was helpful- maybe more advanced level of lessons might help having trouble signing into the advanced levels mind you will try later again –