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[yebellz]

“Fewer than two” means “less than 2” means “< 2” means “1 or less”

[martin3141]

sorry i need some time to come up with counterexamples, because the statement twists my brain circuits.

[martin3141]

Ok @yebellz your rule is unfortunately not right, and I added (hopefully correct) counterexamples. Now for @RubyMineshaft’s Koan …

[martin3141]

I’m not sure how difficult this is, so if you feel like it’s too difficult, you can ask for a hint.

[antonTobi]

Maybe if we’ve been stuck for 24 hours we’ll ask for a hint, but I think being stuck for a bit is a good thing, since it forces us to really think about what we can deduce for sure from the boards we have so far.

[martin3141]

I just realized I made a mistake … I’m terribly sorry. this Koan is actually red:

I will change it in the original post and try to come up with a better counterexample to @yebellz suggested rule. I apologize

[antonTobi]

No worries, mistakes are bound to happen.

[martin3141]

Ok it is fixed now. This is the new counterexample:

[antonTobi]

Very interesting, how about this then?

[shinuito]

It seemed like there was some colour asymmetry so maybe natural to ask about

As in because of these ones

@martin3141

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[antonTobi]

Very nice! Just those two alone doesn’t guarantee colour assymetry, but turns out your hunch was correct!

[shinuito]

@martin3141

There was also this one too. These and some of the other ones make me think it’s not about liberties. i can’t find a liberty pattern yet anyway.

But actually maybe it’s not as simple as just flipping colours because of this one… hmm

[shinuito]

I may as well also ask about this one too

[antonTobi]

This was green when the colors were opposite, let’s see if this changes things:

Edit: Huh, still green.

[Vsotvep]

Here’s the koans rescaled, for easier comparison:

[antonTobi]

Thanks! Maybe I should make them smaller by default (but I’m not sure how to do this in a way such that it’s still easy to input the position, and you can still copy the image by right-clicking).

[martin3141]

I have a question. I started this game because I like this. I should actually do some work now, but I keep getting distracted by the go forum ^^

I’ll have to be more strict with myself, which in turn might mean that I won’t be able to respond quickly to the submitted Koans. If this is a problem, maybe someone could take over for me.

[Vsotvep]

It’s quite easy: pictures will say something like

![name|100x100](upload://url)

and you could rescale them either by changing 100x100 to another number, or by writing a percentage afterwards:

![name|100x100, 50%](upload://url)

@martin3141

I’ll have to be more strict with myself, which in turn might mean that I won’t be able to respond quickly to the submitted Koans. If this is a problem, maybe someone could take over for me.

I could take over, I have just entered this game and not given it too much thought yet. That way the players who put effort into it can keep playing.

[antonTobi]

I think it’s completely fine if you just take a break and come back tomorrow or something, we have lots of koans to theorize about. But if Vsotvep wants to take over that’s of course good too

[martin3141]

@Vsotvep

I could take over, I have just entered this game and not given it too much thought yet. That way the players who put effort into it can keep playing.

Thank you, I would appreciate that! I’ll send you the rule in a private message. Feel free to give hints if you see fit.