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A variation of koan 359:

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Our earlier hypothesis was about White and Black connecting-with-diagonals opposite sides.

I think this new one is equivalent to saying that either White or Black has failed to connect-with-diagonals:

  • opposite sides, or
  • two pairs of neighboring sides

Thinking about it in this opposite way again, we haven’t quite explored all the topologically different ways to make red koans, like these for example:

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Some more evil subtle rules could be like:

There is a path connecting opposite diagonals that divides the stones of one color into two sets of equal [number/parity/etc?].

But at least the few ideas I had don’t seem to work.

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Are you referring to this hypothesis?

You’re calling it “earlier hypothesis”, but I think it still stands? I didn’t see any koan, red or green, that contradicted this rule.

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No, I mean the one we almost guessed:

My point is that the new rule can be thought of as just a slight modification to that one, which explains why it almost worked.

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I think we should vote.

Guess rule “There is a path between at least one pair of opposite corners that goes through at most one stone-color.” ?
  • Yes
  • No, let’s continue exploring Koans

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Of course you’re allowed to submit more koans to check in the meantime :slight_smile:

Seems that was rather beneficial last time

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Maybe just one more? I’m not getting any really creative ideas.

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Wauw, utter chaos, but it’s green:

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Okay, I joined the majority.

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If we’re waiting, let’s try another that should be red…

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It is
(perhaps surprisingly,
if you're easily surprised
(or perhaps not if you're not
(easily surprised, that is
(I still need to close all these brackets
)))
(that's one too few)
)
without a doubt
the colour...
of the koan......
is...................
Say, now that we're not even halfway into this rabbit hole, do you already regret clicking all those little arrows?
I don't mind a little conversation along the way.
I should probably admit
that this sojourn is entirely unplanned.
It is
–––– Hah, that's the same way it started ––––
not going to stop any time soon, though.
Or is it?
You know what, here's a choice
(1.) If you want this detour to continue, please take this path.
Nice choice! You've chosen the "cool path"

I’ll get rid of the “lame path” for you, makes it a bit easier to navigate.

You wouldn't want to accidentally risk taking the "lame path" after all, would you?
The koan is red, by the way, thought you'd like to know that.
So, you chose the "adventurous path"...
The Wild Unknown...!
I'd better make this worth your time then
So, what do you want to talk about?

 

A) Shampoo preferences?
Right, shampoo it is.
You know, I personally don't really like the scent of those perfumes they add to shampoo
I had a brand of shampoo that I used to buy, which had a very mild scent, one of the few that I liked
It was quite nice, you didn't need much of it to wash your hair, but you wouldn't smell of chemicals all day after showering
Sadly, that brand has since disappeared
Or at least, I can't find it in the store, perhaps that's just me
I also don't really remember what it was called.
I do remember one word on the bottle, though
It was one of the ingredients in the shampoo, with a particularly interesting name for me-in-my-teens
Hydroxymethylpentylcyclohexenecarboxaldehyde
And yes, I would bet my life on that name being correct.
I even remember discovering this 44-letter word and bringing the bottle to my chemistry class
Coincidentally we were having lectures on how to name chemicals, so this was like an ultimate boss for us
Usually, I'd spend most of the chemistry classes either sleeping, doodling, or playing dots and boxes with friends
But on that day, I spent the entire class working out what the molecular structure of hydroxymethylpentylcyclohexenecarboxaldehyde is
My chemistry teacher gave us some hints, in particular, he taught us that the naming doesn't give a unique chemical:
Unlike what we learnt in class, real chemists also add numbers to show *where* the bonds are
We didn't know which numbers belonged to the chemical though.
But for sure, we made a drawing (and it was correct) of one molecule that is called hydroxymethylpentylcyclohexenecarboxaldehyde.
Anyways, that's my anecdote. Have a nice day!

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B) Yesterday's dinner?
Well, glad you asked! You see, I've been thinking about telling someone about my yester-dinner.
But I hadn't stumbled upon the right person to have this conversation with. Now I do, apparently!
I'm as surprised as you are.
So, it was a banana.
Yes
Yes, that's it.
Just a banana.
You want to see it?

I guess you're not really interested in the rest of it
I mean the rest of that banana.
The one I ate for dinner, remember?
I think you really don't want to, since I, uhm, already ate it, so to say
Oh, you do?
Wow, you're weird...
I mean, you do realise that at any point in this line of inquiry, you might suddenly stumble upon a particularly nasty hyperrealistic photograph of a moderately sized piece of human stool, right?
That's a risk you're apparently willing to take...
It could be the next click:
It wasn't, but it could've been, you know... Maybe now?
Haaa, I see you thinking, "I'm talking to a moderator here, surely he won't break the Terms of Service by uploading graphically disgusting pictures of poop"
Well, you might be sorely underestimating who you have in front of you
I had about 4 beers already, before I started typing out this adventure
So, really, my ability to give a shit –– heh heh, on-topic –– is significantly lower than my daily average
So here it is. I present to you, a picture of yesterday's stool:

Yes, indeed, it was rather uncomfortable.

 
 
 
 
 

 

C) The 29th of August?
Yes, the 29th of August, it is an interesting date...
I still remember it as if it's yesterday, it was 1986...
Actually... I have no memory at all of the 29th of August 1986...
Do you have it?
Did this day even happen?
Surely it happened, right? Why then, can we not remember a single thing from this day?
Ontologically speaking, we may as well assume this day has not existed at all.
So what the heck happened with the 29th of August then?!
Where did it go!
And why did specifically the 29th of August disappear? It could've been any other day, but for some reason, we have established now that it is *exactly* the 29th that is missing!
Did nobody notice it? Are there no police records of mass confusion from August 30th 1986? Surely somebody must've noticed that they were missing a "yesterday" at that point in time!
Come to think of it...
Do you remember August 30th 1986?
No?
Oh God... It can't be!
We lost another day!! Such cruelty
A perfectly fine day in the end of August, gone, with the wind, into the abyss of time!
The vast expanse of eternity, stretching its malignant limbs towards the present, longing for the future, eager to devour all that is, was, and will be...
I think I need to contemplate my existence for a bit....

 
 
 
 
 

 

D) Investment returns?
Seriously? You want to talk about investment returns?!
You must be extremely awkward...
I mean, no offense, but... "investment returns"...
That's about the least interesting conversation topic on the planet, right below "the weather"
Okay, here's my two pence
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Don’t believe me?
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Alright, you win, here’s what you’re after, hopefully:

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Still not satisfied?

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Maybe it’s the dots, you’re just following the dots! Ha, but I can do better than this.

Now you see me, now you…

 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 

… don’t!

 

What, still here? Okay, I give up.

 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Leave me alone

 
 
 
 

Please

 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 

Look, you even made the dots return.

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Okay, okay, okay, I’ll give you what you want, here’s the other path.

Now next time, remember that choices have consequences: if you have to pick something, pick with utter confidence.

Never backtrack.

Stick with your choice.

No to second thoughts!

Eat the proletariat!!

Eat breakfast as well, while you’re at it!!!

 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 

(2.) If you want to just know the colour of the last koan, choose this path
Aww, come on, you're such a spoilsport!
Think about all the fun we could've had...
Deep philosophical debates,
off-kilter quips about the weather in Yorkshire,
semi-serious sarcastic soliloquies,
there might even be cake along the way, who knows?
You're allergic to cake?
Good lord, you're boring! No chit-chat, no cake, just the colour of the koan
Ugh
Why couldn't you be someone else?
Like this guy, for example

Look at him! He's standing on top of a mountain! Look how cool he looks! Look at how much stuff he did!
And you? Sad little you?
Yes. You're just "being" there, staring at a screen, reading the random words someone typed out for you on the internet
You don't even have to attempt to solve the puzzle I made for you.
I bet you already voted as well. Probably for "Yes", and not for "No, let's continue exploring Koans"
Well guess what.
This might not be a koan, but I will force you to explore at the very least!
Somewhere inside here, is the colour of the koan.
So, how about some actual koans?
Perhaps that could teach you some humility
––– Every Day Is a Good Day –––
Unmon said: "I do not ask you about fifteen days ago. But what about fifteen days hence? Come, say a word about this!" Since none of the monks answered, he answered for them: "Every day is a good day."
––– No Cold and Heat –––
A monk asked Tozan, "How can we escape the cold and heat?" Tozan replied, "Why not go where there is no cold and heat?" "Is there such a place?" the monk asked. Tozan commented, "When cold, be thoroughly cold; when hot, be hot through and through.
––– The Short Staff –––
Shuzan held out his short staff and said, "If you call this a short staff, you oppose its reality. If you do not call it a short staff, you ignore the fact. Now what do you wish to call this?"
––– Joshu's Mu –––
Joshu (A.D. 778-897) was a famous Chinese Zen Master who lived in Joshu, the province from which he took his name. One day a troubled monk approached him, intending to ask the Master for guidance. A dog walked by. The monk asked Joshu, "Has that dog a Buddha-nature or not?" The monk had barely completed his question when Joshu shouted: "MU!"
––– Seijo's Two Souls –––
Chokan had a very beautiful daughter named Seijo. He also had a handsome young cousin named Ochu. Joking, he would often comment that they would make a fine married couple. Actually, he planned to give his daughter in marriage to another man. But young Seijo and Ochu took him seriously; they fell in love and thought themselves engaged. One day Chokan announced Seijo's betrothal to the other man. In rage and despair, Ochu left by boat. After several days journey, much to his astonishment and joy he discovered that Seijo was on the boat with him!
They went to a nearby city where they lived for several years and had two children. But Seijo could not forget her father; so Ochu decided to go back with her and ask the father's forgiveness and blessing. When they arrived, he left Seijo on the boat and went to the father's house. he humbly apologized to the father for taking his daughter away and asked forgiveness for them both.
"What is the meaning of all this madness?" the father exclaimed. Then he related that after Ochu had left, many years ago, his daughter Seijo had fallen ill and had lain comatose in bed since. Ochu assured him that he was mistaken, and, in proof, he brought Seijo from the boat. When she entered, the Seijo lying ill in bed rose to meet her, and the two became one.
Zen Master Goso, referrring to the legend, observed, "Seijo had two souls, one always sick at home and the other in the city, a married woman with two children. Which was the true soul?"
––– Bells and Robes –––
Zen Master Unmon said: "The world is vast and wide. Why do you put on your robes at the sound of a bell?"
––– Ganto's Two Meals –––
Kisan paid a visit to Ganto, who was living in quiet seclusion, and asked, "Brother, are you getting two meals regularly?" "The fourth son of the Cho family supports me, and I am very much obliged to him," said Ganto. "If you do not do your part well, you will be born as an ox in the next life and will have to repay him for what you owed him in this life," Kisan cautioned.
Ganto put his fists on his forehead but said nothing. "If you mean horns," Kisan said, "you must stick out your fingers on top of your head." But before he finished speaking, Ganto shouted, "Hey!" Kisan did not understand his meaning and said, "If you know something deeper, why don't you explain it to me?" Ganto hissed at him and said, "You have been studying Buddhism for thirty years, as I have, and you are still wandering around. I have nothing to do with you. Just get out." And with these words he shut the door in Kisan's face.
The fourth son of the Cho family happened to be passing by and, out of pity, took Kisan to his home. "Thirty years ago we were close friends," Kisan said sorrowfully, "but now he has attained something higher than I have and will not impart it to me."
That night Kisan could not sleep. He got up and went to Ganto's house. "Brother," he implored, "please be kind and preach the Dharma for me." Ganto opened the door and disclosed the teaching. The next morning Kisan returned home, happy with attainment.
––– Bodhidharma and the Emperor Wu –––
Emperor Wu of China was a very benevolent Buddhist. He built many temples and monasteries, educated many monks, and performed countless philanthropic deeds in the name of Buddhism. He asked the great teacher Bodhidharma, "What merit is there in my good works?" Bodhidharma replied, "None whatsoever." The Emperor then asked, "What is the Primal meaning of Holy Reality?" Bodhidharma answered, "Emptiness, not holiness." The Emperor then queried, "Who, then, is this confronting me?" "I do not know," was Bodhidharma's reply. Since the Emperor did not understand, Bodhidharma left his kingdom.
Later, the Emperor related this conversation to an adviser, Prince Shiko. Shiko reprimanded him, saying that Bodhidharma was a great teacher possessed of the highest truth. The Emperor, filled with regret, dispatched a messenger to entreat Bodhidharma to return. But Shiko warned, "Even if all the people in the land went, that one will never return."
––– Returning to the Ordinary World –––
A monk asked Kegon, "How does an enligthtened one return to the ordinary world?" Kegon replied, "A broken mirror never reflects again; fallen flowers never go back to the old branches."
––– No Beard –––
Wakuan complained when he saw a picture of bearded Bodhidharma, "Why hasn't that fellow a beard?"
––– Everything is Best –––
One day Banzan was walking through a market. He overheard a customer say to the butcher, "Give me the best piece of meat you have." "Everything in my shop is the best," replied the butcher. "You can not find any piece of meat that is not the best." At these words, Banzan was enlightened.
––– Manjusri Enters the Gate –––
One day as Manjusri stood outside the gate, the Buddha called to him, "Manjusri, Manjusri, why do you not enter?" Manjusri replied, "I do not see myself as outside. Why enter?"
––– Where to Meet after Death –––
Dogo paid a visit to his sick fellow monk, Ungan. "Where can I see you again if you die and leave only your corpse?" Dogo asked. "I will meet you where nothing dies," Ungan replied. Dogo criticized his response saying, "What you should have said is that there is no place where nothing is born and nothing dies and that we need not see each other at all."
––– A Philosopher Asks Buddha –––
A philosopher asked Buddha: "Without words, without silence, will you tell me the truth?" The Buddha sat quietly. The philosopher then bowed and thanked the Buddha, saying, "With your loving kindness I have cleared away my delusions and entered the true path." After the philosopher had gone, Ananda asked Buddha what the philosopher had attained. The Buddha commented, "A good horse runs even at the shadow of the whip."
––– Jizo's Buddhism –––
One day, Jizo received one of Hofuku's disciples and asked him, "How does your teacher instruct you?" "My teacher instructs me to shut my eyes and see no evil thing; to cover my ears and hear no evil sound; to stop my mind-activities and form no wrong ideas," the monk replied. "I do not ask you to shut your eyes," Jizo said, "but you do not see a thing. I do not ask you to cover your ears, but you do not hear a sound. I do not ask you to cease your mind-activities, but you do not form any idea at all."
––– The Southern Mountain –––
Sekiso lived and taught on the Southern Mountain, and Kankei lived and taught on the Northern Mountain. One day, a monk came from the Northern Monastery to the Southern Monastery in search of teaching. Sekiso said to him, "My Southern Monastery is no better than the Monastery in the North." The monk did not know what reply to make. When he returned to Kankei and told him the story, Kankei said, "You should have told him that I am ready to enter Nirvana any day."
––– The Girl Comes Out of Meditation –––
Once upon a time, Manjusri, the Bodhisattva of Wisdom, went to an assemblage of Buddhas. By the time he arrived, all had departed except for the Buddha Sakyamuni and one girl. She was seated in a place of highest honor, deep in meditation. Manjusri asked the Buddha how it was possible for a mere girl to attain a depth of mediation that even he could not attain. The Buddha said, "Bring her out of meditation and ask her yourself."
So Manjusri walked around the girl three times (a gesture of reverence), then snapped his fingers. She remained deep in meditation. He then tried rousing her by invoking all his magic powers; he even transported her to a high heaven. All was to no avail, so deep was her concentration. But suddenly, up from below the earth sprang Momyo, an unenlightened one. He snapped his fingers once, and the girl came out of her meditation.
––– The Real Way Is Not Difficult –––
Joshu addressed an assembly of monks: "The Real Way is not difficult;, but it dislikes the Relative. If there is but little speech, it is about the Relative or it is about the Absolute. This old monk is not within the Absolute. Do you value this or not?" A monk said to him, "If you are not within the Absolute, how can you judge its value?" Joshu said, "Neither do I know that." The monk argued, "Your Reverence, if you do not yet know, how is it that you say you are not within the Absolute?" Joshu said, "Your questioning is effective. Finish your worship and leave."
––– The Turtle in the Garden –––
A monk saw a turtle in the garden of Daizui's monastery and asked the teacher, "All beings cover their bones with flesh and skin. Why does this being cover its flesh and skin with bones?" Master Daizui took off one of his sandals and covered the turtle with it.
––– The Temple –––
One day Hofuku said to his disciples, "When one passes behind the temple, he meets Chang and Li, but he does not see anyone in front of it. Why is this? Which of the two roads is better?" A monk answered, "Something must be wrong with the sight. Nothing is gained without seeing." The Master scolded the monk, saying, "Stupid, the temple is always like this." The monk said, "If it were not the temple, one should see something." The Master said, "I am talking about the temple and nothing else."
––– Lotus Blossoms and Leaves –––
A monk asked Chimon, "Before the lotus blossom has emerged from the water, what is it?" Chimon said, "A lotus blossom." The monk pursued, "After it has come out of the water, what is it?" Chimon replied, "Lotus leaves."
––– The Colour of the Koan –––

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It’s grey.

(The above koans are from this page, which has stolen them from a copyrighted book, so by stealing from a thief, I hereby declare these koans ethically cleansed)

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Here’s a hint :stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye:

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