And I believe this poor hybrid system is a key contributor to the confusion seen by many OGS players around scoring. Whilst it could be because KGS doesn’t have a forum so we can’t see all the confused KGS players, in my experience from helping people including beginners on KGS that community of players does not have the same confusion about scoring as on OGS. Making it the player’s clear responsibility to mark dead stones rather than a computer trying to help you and sometimes doing it right and sometimes wrong (and maybe I don’t even need to finish the game and close the territories because the computer will try to guess how the game would continue and score that) leads to better results.