Isn’t Japanese rules are more popular?
Depends on your definition of popular and Go population. The sheer amount of Chinese players alone might simply outweigh everyone if you just count people who have learned to play Go.
but I think Japanese rules are better may be because I’m from Korea and I use Japanese rulesa lot.
and in Chinese rules komi is 7.5 which better for white
and how do you even count points in Chinese rules?
I don’t think that Chinese rules are bad but I like Japanese rules. because In chinese rules you score 1 point for every points you play on the board. which I don’t think it’s right. but I think I should know both rules because some people use Chinese rules. but I want to play with 1 rule unless I have to play the other rule. That’s why I made
“Japanese vs Chinese go rules which is better and which is more popular?”.
If you’re discovering the game as it seems, go rules should not matter that much, use the one you are accustomed with. Understanding well all kind of rules in the world will mostly confuse you as it seems you have already some misconception on the differences.
You can always check later when you ll be a bit more advanced player and you can afford to spend some time with a clear mind on this topic.
If you really can’t wait then a search in this forum will provide you answers for sure.
Captured stones are put in the lids of the stone containers.
Even 6-year-old novices in my kids club have no difficulties following that custom which I include in my brief verbal initiation. Those captured stones are points, so they matter. And when you can put a lot of those on display, it may impress/intimidate your opponent.
When you check the pictures I posted elsewhere in the forums, you’ll see they all neatly put their captured stones in their lids. And when the pile doesn’t fit anymore (it does happen that one player completely wipes out their opponent), they may try to find some other container, or swap their playing stones and captured stones between container and lid. They’ll try to find a way to keep it organised, even without me telling them. Exceptions exist, but are not very common IME.
An example:
People who grew up doing that or who did that from the start have no issues. The problem is with the people who didn’t do that all along and are suddenly asked to do that i.e. people who are used to playing area scoring playing using territory scoring.
I used to think that such a simple thing shouldn’t be an issue. I have no issues either even though I’m used to area scoring. But things didn’t seem so…
yeah, 6.5 is fair (closest to 50-50 winrate) komi under territory scoring, and 7.0 is fair komi under area scoring. 7.5 komi favoring White is a problem for Chinese Rules, but not for area scoring. NZD Rules correctly specify 7.0 komi and therefore do not have this issue
I play a lot of 9x9, and I find counting with Chinese rules to be much easier - just take 37 or 45 intersections, depending on color. I can read out a variation (sometimes to the end of the game), count, and know if I will win. I don’t have to remember about captures along the way, I just need to visualize the stones. When I play Japanese rules and there’s an endgame ko, I usually just count area and hope the possible 1-point difference doesn’t change the outcome.
But in area scorring It’s hard to count points area scorring is same as teriotory scorring or teriotory scorring + 1 point for black most of the time exept if there is a seki It might have a diffrent winner of the game of go.
I’ve done an analysis and estimation and a slight statistic of the different results might arrive using different rules. Due to the extra komi, they often agree on the winners. Only on the very height proficiency in the pro range, we see about 1/50 of the games ended up with different winners, and it is not due to seki. Below pro strength, the chance dropped significantly, which often doesn’t matter which rules used in amateur games.
No, he’s just Australian and he’s saying “Hey buddy, look it up if you don’t believe me”.