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Let have a go. I can’t find much good info on participles :expressionless:

I) Vir auferēns currit.
II) Vir vās aufēctus comparat.
III) Vir vās aufēctus comparāvit.
IV) Virum auferēns prēndō.
V) Virum prēndam, quem vās auferat.
(Virum vās auferisse prēndam with a preposition?)

VI) Mercātor vās aufēctus comparābit nōn.
VII) Vās aufendus tegō.
VIII) Virum vāse aufēctus ferīvī. (past tense)
IX) Vir gemmās in vāse aufēctus celāvit.

It’s time to Roll the Writ-Wheel!

@Vsotvep! Give me a dicebot roll of 1-750!

If I’m not mistaken, every sentence could be translated using a participle, so I’d say, keep trying :slight_smile:

Some pages that I looked at yesterday: this one & this one

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@discobot roll 1d750

Did you know that the maximum number of sides for a mathematically fair die is 120?

:game_die: 96

Looks like today’s featured script is SignWriting!

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Hi! To find out what I can do, say @discobot display help.

Uhm, no @discobot, you can make a mathematically fair die that has more sides, it’s just really hard to distinguish it from a smooth shape

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“using dice rather than pig knuckles”

I bet u don’t even play the game of Ur

Actually I have to self-pedantise, the royal game of Ur was played using a sort of odd triangular-pyramid based system, that wasn’t actually d4s.

inhales boi.

What do I keep telling you, you buckhead bugcat? Take care for agreement of case, number gender! If you leave your words they way you found them in your dictionary, they’ll always be in the nominative. What you’ve got here is:
I. The man runs stealing / The stealing man runs. (Or is running)
II. The stolen man buys a vase.
III. The stolen man bought a vase.
IV. I catch the man while I’m stealing.
V. Oh that I catch the man, whom the vase steals!
(Oh that I catch, that the man stole a vase)
VI. The stolen merchant buys the vase, no.
VII. I, who should get stealed, put a blanket on the vase.
VIII. I, who am stolen, beat the man with a vase.
IX. The stolen man hid gems inside a vase.

You see what happens, Larry? You see what happens when you leave adjectives in the nominative?

And I would check again if auferre really has the participle you think it has. Ferre is highly irregular, taking its perfect from tuli, tulisti, tulit and the perfect participle latus, -a, -um. Hence ablativus ‘the case for whence you took stuff’.

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You sound exactly like what my Latin teachers sounded like :stuck_out_tongue:

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I-I thought participles didn’t inflect, Sir

Sir -

Sir there was no need to throw chalk

That’s why I said the exercise is a lot easier in Japanese :stuck_out_tongue:


Speaking of which, time to start doing the exercise myself.

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Out of interest, what sort of school did you go to that you learnt Latin? In England the “comprehensive schools” where 90pc of people study don’t teach it.

I went to what I think is called a “grammar school” in English, although in the Netherlands we confusingly call it a “gymnasium”. In our country we have three main levels of high school education, depending on the kind of study you want to do. The one that prepares for university and scientific study is called “vwo” (standing for pre-scientific education), and then “gymnasium” is a special kind of vwo where you learn Latin and Ancient Greek.

I had 6 years of Latin, but never did anything to learn vocabulary or study the conjugations. I was pretty good with a dictionary and guessing what sentences meant, so translating always went well. Greek I did 3 years, but I found it a lot more confusing.

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Ah, yes, I’ve heard the Dutch education system described a little before. It seems to me that Latin teaching has decreased a lot in England over the last fifty years as we’ve transitioned from a “grammar / secondary modern” paradigm which separated an academic and a practical education based on an exam at age 10; in those days grammar schools (which teach Latin) were much more common. Now we have a system in which the secondary moderns were greatly academised to turn them into “comprehensives” and the grammars resultantly became much fewer, and the comprehensives didn’t start teaching Latin. Ofc., Boris Johnson et. David Cameron et. al. were taught Latin at the ancient fee-paying schools of the elite.

There aren’t many people who go to grammar schools here either, and in a certain way it’s perhaps more useful to learn German, French or Spanish. It’s definitely also a thing of the elite, I had a lot of rich children in my class (not me though). I don’t think our politics is as elitist as it is on the other side of the Channel, though.

Definitely you can earn more money, talk to more peopl etc. with a Romance language. I’m not passing judgement on whether Latin should be taught. And yes, our education system is very elitist. That said, I will point out that in the 1930s the illegitimate son of a farmer and a factory maid became the Prime Minister of the largest majority government this country has ever seen apart from Churchill’s wartime coalition.

It’s a bit distortive because, as I said, grammars were once more common. So several PMs, like John Major and Theresa May, came out of them. But overall an insultingly low 40pc or so of our MPs are from state schools.

@Vsotvep thanks for not responding, I get too easily derailed if people discuss stuff with me. That’s why 25 posts of this thread come from the Things you like to do thread. Let’s stay on topic.

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