Random Gaps + Pie Rule

B6

https://shinuito.github.io/9x9board.html?neu=a6f6&bmoves=d3f3b5g5c6a7b7c7g7c8d8e8a9d9e9&wmoves=b4c5d5e5d6d7e7f7f8b9f9

B3:

https://shinuito.github.io/9x9board.html?neu=a6f6&bmoves=b3d3f3b5g5c6a7b7c7g7c8d8e8a9d9e9&wmoves=b4c5d5e5d6d7e7f7f8b9f9

It seems like we are working with slightly different coordinate systems, but the links to @shinuito 's tool are very helpful to clear my confusion.

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I could probably look into hashing the position to try and keep it a fixed length. Make the alphabet it uses in the link larger so that the space needed will be less than just listing all the coordinates (itā€™s an ok first attempt though :slight_smile: )

Yeah @terrific could be thinking of OGSā€™s coordinates, where it goes from 9 to 1 top to bottom on the left side. I kind of prefer it as it is (it kind of makes sense in a matrix coordinates type way but also for drawing coordinates) although originally it was unintentionally different :slight_smile: I was even looking at OGS to see what letters they used :stuck_out_tongue:

The gameā€™s been really interesting to watch so far :slight_smile:

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C3

https://shinuito.github.io/9x9board.html?neu=a6f6&bmoves=b3d3f3b5g5c6a7b7c7g7c8d8e8a9d9e9&wmoves=c3b4c5d5e5d6d7e7f7f8b9f9

Yea, I meant B4

A4:

https://shinuito.github.io/9x9board.html?neu=a6f6&bmoves=b3d3f3a4b5g5c6a7b7c7g7c8d8e8a9d9e9&wmoves=c3b4c5d5e5d6d7e7f7f8b9f9

C4. I want to resign but letā€™s play a few more movesā€¦
https://shinuito.github.io/9x9board.html?neu=a6f6&bmoves=b3d3f3a4b5g5c6a7b7c7g7c8d8e8a9d9e9&wmoves=c3b4c4c5d5e5d6d7e7f7f8b9f9

conditional move

if black B2 then white F4
https://shinuito.github.io/9x9board.html?neu=a6f6&bmoves=b2b3d3f3a4b5g5c6a7b7c7g7c8d8e8a9d9e9&wmoves=c3b4c4f4c5d5e5d6d7e7f7f8b9f9

B2, F4, G4:

https://shinuito.github.io/9x9board.html?neu=a6f6&bmoves=b2b3d3f3a4g4b5g5c6a7b7c7g7c8d8e8a9d9e9&wmoves=c3b4c4f4c5d5e5d6d7e7f7f8b9f9

I hope you are having fun anyways. This game was very exciting and I have been enjoying it a lot.

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G3

I enjoy the game too

https://shinuito.github.io/9x9board.html?neu=a6f6&bmoves=b2b3d3f3a4g4b5g5c6a7b7c7g7c8d8e8a9d9e9&wmoves=c3g3b4c4f4c5d5e5d6d7e7f7f8b9f9

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I play G2:

https://shinuito.github.io/9x9board.html?neu=a6f6&bmoves=b2g2b3d3f3a4g4b5g5c6a7b7c7g7c8d8e8a9d9e9&wmoves=c3g3b4c4f4c5d5e5d6d7e7f7f8b9f9

Iā€™m glad to hear that. Iā€™m looking forward to playing more games and also encourage other people to try this variant.

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encourage other people to try this variant.

Lately Iā€™ve been intrigued by stone_defenderā€™s ā€œOpening Freedom Goā€, which is standard Go but with komi decided (either by bot evaluation or bidding) after a certain number of moves.

He was envisaging four moves before komi is established, but I think ten would be more interesting.

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That sounds interesting too. Do you know of someone who tried it?

The main discussion is at Suggest a new rule you'd like to see in Go (fun times) - #36 by bugcat

(and no)

Perhaps it should be spun out into its own thread.

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Canā€™t see a way to make anything happen. I resign. Good game.

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Well played, thank you for the game.

I was afraight that you would play B7 on move 16:

I donā€™t know what I would have done, but I believe Black probably has to somehow sacrifice. Hereā€™s an example sequence where Black tries to live:

Note that White has an eye at A7 thanks to the removed intersection!

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At this point I thought youā€™d push and cut as well @martin3141

The cutā€™s an atari :slight_smile:

I should add a button for selecting Black/White or alternating placement of stones or something like adding numbers to the image. It looks really helpful for discussing sequences from your images @martin3141 :slight_smile:

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That was my first thought, too. Iā€™m not sure what would happen then, but hereā€™s my reasoning for not cutting. White can avoid a direct confrontation with 2 and 4:

ā€¦ and White can look forward to playing A or B next.

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Yeah I suppose that makes sense, and then once white is ok on the outside, some similar sequence to your above one but one less liberty for Black.

Anyway, thatā€™s cool, interesting game :slight_smile: Iā€™d be up for playing one

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I too want to play more games, but at the same time I want to encourage more people on the forum to try this variant, and Iā€™ve already had the pleasure twice. So speak up if you want to have a go! Iā€™m down to spectate this round.

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Random Starting Position + Flexible Komi isnā€™t a very catchy name.

What about Lacunar Go or Lacunal Go, or just Hole Go?

https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/lacuna#English

Or RaSP?

I suppose ā€œrandom starting positionā€ also makes it sound like thereā€™ll be random stones on the board rather than thereā€™ll be random holes on the board.

Maybe something like hole go + flexible Komi, or hole go + pie rule might be better, I dunno :slight_smile:

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