Simultaneous Fractional Go Game 1

Yes, I was expecting Vsotvep to connect one way or the other but he was a step ahead of me on this one.

I’d like to play Q11 to kill his stones and connect mine, but he can counteract that by colliding, leaving my new stone trapped with the others. So I might as well play something else, like O12 or P14.

(I will leave the blue-black stone at S10 to @yebellz since I’d just be trapped if I killed it myself.)

But then, since I’m not playing Q11, there’s no urgency for Vsotvep to play there either. So maybe I should consider it after all?

:thinking:

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I’ve discovered that you generally try to mislead us about what your next move is, so I’ll assume that you are actually going to play Q11.

Of course saying this itself will have an effect as well :slight_smile:


I hope S11 survives, so that we may capture R10 / R11.

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@martin3141 something is wrong with your time widget this time:

Meanwhile, I’m thinking about how I can credibly select a random move…

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This is the reminder. All but @Maharani have submitted a move.

Deadline for next reminder: 2021-12-18T19:00:00Z

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Oops… sorry everyone.

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Round 20

Team Blue Green Pink
Black @Maharani: S11 @Jon_Ko: F5 @Vsotvep: Q11
White @yebellz: O11 @Feijoa: O12 @terrific:D5

After placing all stones …

… the two (white | green) stones R10 & R11 are removed.

New Position:

fractional_game2_Round20_2

Check-in Time for Round 21: 2021-12-21T07:00:00Z

Maharanis move was a bit late but hit a good spot :slightly_smiling_face:

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By the way, I know that Feijoa prefers that players who missed their move are announced publicly, but how do the others think about it?
The alternative would be to remind these players privately and publicly only reveal that some submissions are missing.
I feel a bit bad about putting someone on the spot like that, although the intention is not to make this person feel bad.

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I have no preference

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I think public reminders are alright.

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More than half of us have been publicly reminded anyway :sweat_smile:

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Also, the rest could have already used backup moves for all we know :wink:

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I will play a “thick move”.

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Ugh, my stone at S12 looks dead too, so I’ll block at P14 instead hoping not to collide.

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Round 21

Team Blue Green Pink
Black @Maharani: O9 @Jon_Ko: F4 @Vsotvep: P14
White @yebellz: T6 @Feijoa: T12 @terrific: J3

The black chain at R6 and S6 is removed. New Position:

fractional_game2_Round21_2

Check-in Time for Round 22: 2021-12-23T07:00:00Z

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It’s going to take two moves to kill my group so I think we can still kill the four pink-black stones. @yebellz want to do it? I can play R11.

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Sounds good!

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As far as I understand it, those four pink-black stones are connected to my Q10 group and cannot be captured independently from them…?

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@Maharani Please think about it for a bit - here is a relevant quote that should help:

Can you point out the black- and the red-chain that the four (red/black)-stones are part of?

Here is that quote in context:

I think I falsely deduced from that that a stone’s primary colour (black/white) took priority over its secondary colour as far liberties are concerned. (In that example, R9 would have been captured despite being part of a blue chain, because it was a “black chain consisting of one stone”).

Which, thinking more about it, would mean that the secondary colour is only ever cosmetic, and my assumption nonsensical…

Okay, duh, so if a group of stones includes a liberty-less chain of a given colour, that chain is removed from the board, regardless of what other colour-chains with liberties those stones may be a part of. Makes much more sense :slight_smile:

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How about this: @Jon_Ko plays T11, @Maharani T13 and I play P10, then we will almost certainly capture the S12 stones (assuming Feijoa is indeed going to attempt capturing me instead of defending) and it’s impossible to kill the Q12 stones.

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