That’s my spin of the whole idea, but since it originated from this thread, I post the results of my ventures here, to give credit where credit is due.
The concept is that since this is not immediately “squarish” the opponent doesn’t catch up early that a deliberate shape is being made and so far noone has interrupted the building of the parellelogram.
Also, I thought that since it is odd and not as clearly symmetric as a square, it will be more stable than a square or, at least, more intimidating. So far, noone yet has tried to invade it.
That game is also going well… I almost fumbled it, but at the moment it is heading for a very rare victory against a dan player. I am so excited, I cannot wait for the next moves in DGS, I kepp pressing f5 every ten minutes hehehe
And the stones of the fuseki? Surprisingly ideally placed!
If the opponent wants to invade it, for example at tengen, you can make good shape and turn the invading stones into a heavy weak group. The purpose of the square formation is to be strong in the area, you don’t need to fully enclose the territory inside of it:
Though AI is telling me Black has a better result after these moves, so maybe White should consider playing somewhere else instead of responding. All I know is I like the shape, and I would prefer to have this kind of center fighting instead of corner joseki and reading corner-based life-and-death.
2 is ok but 4 is really bad, forcing white to break your own shape. Better to tenuki, or at least play 6 directly if you want to connect your square without hurting the top left stone (but hane outside probably better).
The challenges that I issued on DGS against higher ranked opponents with the express goal to play the variation of the square fuseki that I like, are winding down.
I won one of the games against a 1 dan (see previous post).
Resigned another one against a 3 dan:
Resigned another one against a 3 dan:
And I am currently about to resign another one against a 1 dan. This one was very close (it was so close it could have even be down to a couple of points), but I just did a life and death error and it is now futile. That was so close!
The only one that is ongoing is this game against a 5 dan, which is going ok, I guess, but I am increasingly worried that I’ll find a way to mess it up.
The GameGoSeries channel (which is imho the best Go YT channel that I currently know of) seems to have played against @shamisen who used the beginning of the parallelogram fuseki (minus one move) against GameGoSeries. It seems that the game was interesting and that led him to make it into a video:
Alas it is for subscribers only, so I do not have access to it.
But I did locate the game:
Shamisen won! Well done!
I am seriously considering subscribing just to watch that review…
In my own correspondence game, things are progressing slowly and I think that I am messing things up slowly…
Yeah I was happy when I had the chance to play against my favorite Go content creator, win or lose! And it’s unfortunate you all can’t see the video for free – he basically uses my opening to explain that the game of Go is a very “free” game as in allowing a lot of freedom. I paid $2 and then immediately cancelled the membership just to see the video, it was personally worth supporting him considering I got great value out of 50+ of his videos in the past.
technically true since a square is a parallelogram, but it’s supposed to be a rotated square. it’s 3/4 of a mini black hole opening
You look fine to me if komi is 6.5, there’s still one or two big fights left to decide who wins. I’m not sure if I’m allowed to say any more than that since the game is still ongoing.
… Great job squire!
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