Who do we need to speak with to get default Komi on smaller boards changed?

Don’t presume what I might expect. I expect nothing. I made a simple point, usually ignored, and the point stands.

In a post in another thread, I was ridiculed for aspiring to keep the mistakes below 3 points, so there are a number of people here who should dispute your number. I don’t know the truth of it one way or the other, and have never seen data on that question, but you seem to pull the number out of the air.

I think though one of the problems of the English language is that saying “you” doesn’t always mean you specifically. Of course I don’t mean that in a condescending way, I just bring it up as a point of discussion.

It could be the case that they meant it that way, and it does read that way, and maybe one should use “one” in cases where they really don’t mean “you (personally)”, but such is the way of things :slight_smile: Just something to consider in any case.

Your point about non-universal komi for all ranks is quite interesting, and even if it should be no more than 2 points different for beginners to advanced players, that’s basically where we are now for discussing 9x9, the difference between 7.5 and 5.5 :slight_smile:

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Seems hard to imagine under area scoring, but even if A1 is specifically negative and worsens the corner prospects, the general argument still seems valid for most other moves. No first player advantage would make all remotely-reasonable (ie. non-negative) opening moves worth equal (nothing), the same as an offboard 0 point move (pass).

Btw, for the slightly-smaller komi for beginners argument, it may worth note that having 1-2 point too high komi for a DDK hurts his (high variance) game less than having 1-2 point too low komi for a strong player.

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Thank you for recognizing the point I made.

I am well aware of the distinctions about “you” and “one.” If he pleads a deficiency in English, I will accept that. In the meantime, his comment was highly condescending.

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I am not sure what I meant at the time I wrote it, but regardless of what I meant, it doesn’t exonerate or excuse anything since it came across to you all the same either way, so either way you have my apologies.

In which case let me rephrase: I can definitely stand in strong support for your point that fair komi does depend on the player - indeed what I gave is a theoretical argument for why and how much of an effect one might expect (plus experimentation showing that at least on the extreme of random play, you can explicitly confirm that it depends on the player). And as shinuito points out, at the weaker end of SDK and for DDK the plausible effect, absent data to the contrary, could well be on the level of the komi changes discussed

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Pal Balogh, a Hungarian 6d, likes playing as white. As he says:

profanity

It’s points in the bank you can’t fuck up.

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Thank you. I withdraw the criticism.

I do appreciate the analysis you did. As a weak SDK, I still feel that I don’t have the skill to fully leverage the advantage of the first move. I suspect, from observation, that this changes in the stronger SDK ranks. That’s just a feeling, without data to back it up.

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