Hi. I climbed to 19k for one game, then back to 32k then up to around 23k. Looking for a few pointers to escape this plateau.
GreenPlayingBlack
Hi. I climbed to 19k for one game, then back to 32k then up to around 23k. Looking for a few pointers to escape this plateau.
GreenPlayingBlack
I actually really enjoy teaching newer players. Personally, I find Correspondence is a much better format than Live is, for teaching as play progresses. My time is fragmented throughout the day and I find it hard to predict when I will be available online. My username is Mulsiphix, Iām rated at 15Kyu, and I currently only play on the 9x9 board. If you would like to play a Correspondence game with me, I would be happy to do a teaching game with you.
Since a Correspondence game is more forgiving of me time wise, I could make comments and answer questions while we played. I can create and share multiple variations with you concerning ways to handle places in the match where multiple possibilities existed for you. You could use the Undo Move feature to allow you to try a different move when you make a mistakes. Of course, we can take the time to discuss mistakes and what could have been done to avoid them, or what moves you could play after a mistake to make the best out of a poor situation. If youād prefer to just play a match and review the game afterwards, we certainly could do that too.
One thing you should prepare yourself for, concerning progression in the game of Go, is how a person achieves progress in this game. When you begin Go, you approach the game as you would any other. You try to understand the rules, you play, and you hope you will achieve victory. However, victory in Go is directly related to your ability to recognize patterns of stones on the board. There is a famous go proverb that goes something like this: When you begin Go, lose your first 50 games as quickly as possible .
When you first begin you will lose repeatedly. When you first start out, Go can be a very confusing game. You likely will struggle recognizing when a game is over so that you can safely pass. You probably donāt have a clue how the score is counted and most of your games will be losses. Other players seemingly know something that you donāt, as you try your hardest but continually fall short. The best way to get started with Go is to simply witness the game being played. I personally lost my first 50 games. After my first victory I swear it was another 50 before I won a second time.
Progress in Go, at the most basic level, is measured by how many patterns your brain can recognize. You lose heavily when you first start out because the people you are facing are able to recognize more patterns on the board than you can. Their experience has taught them to recognize certain shapes and configurations of stones and how to respond to them effectively. As your database grows, so does your ability to defend yourself. In time so will your ability to exploit the weak patterns of other players. As you lose, pay attention to how you lose, and you can make it work for you in future games. Monkey see, monkey do.
Getting better takes a lot of practice. Just playing a lot of games will help you grow. Losing is learning, so try not to get emotionally invested in winning. Losing teaches us a lot of useful lessons. In fact, we learn far more about ourselves and gameplay when we lose, compared to winning. When you first begin your rank is likely to go up and down repeatedly. Youāll get strong in one play style, win often, your rank will grow, and then new opponents will test that style and punch holes in it. To grow in skill you will have to try new approaches, techniques, stone placement strategies, etcā¦, and as you do your rank will plummet as you attempt to formulate new play styles.
As these styles get stronger, you will begin to rise in rank again. Only to get high enough that opponents put you through your paces, just like before, and you will need to expand what you know all over again. This is the cycle of growth in Go. So take your rank with a grain of salt. It does not represent who you are or what you are ultimately capable of. It represents a general idea of what you know and what experience you have gained up to this point in your journey with Go, compared to other players. Whether you win or lose does not matter. You are only ever competing against yourself and to expand your knowledge of the game. Winning is only ever evidence that you have learned something meaningful along the way.
I learned a great deal about how to play better by playing Correspondence games and using the Analyze Game tool on OGS. I try to predict how the game might play out. I try several possibilities, playing 15 to 30 moves for each variation. Then I play the first move from the best variation. It teaches me to āread the boardā better (predict how the game is most likely to progress). Also, it teaches me a lot about what kinds of move tactics and stone placement patterns fail the most and why. I cannot recommend it enough.
For the 9x9 board, practicing Go Problems is a quick way to train your mind to recognize common stone patterns and how to beat them. I recommend Cho Chikunās Encyclopedia of Life and Death. It starts at beginner level and progressively gets harder. When it gets too hard, you can just start over from scratch, working through them again. Each time you do this you should be able to go further than you did before. There is definitely a proper way to do Tsumego, and a wonderful treatment of that topic can be found in the free Go book, 81 Little Lions: An Introduction to the 9x9 Board for Advanced Beginners, by Immanuel deVillers, page 20. This book is a gem and I recommend you give it a look. If you are the reading type, there is another free book aimed at beginners that you might want to check out River Mountain Go, Volume 1. It is aimed at the 30K - 20K player, though the writing is not as eloquent as Mr. deVillers book.
One final bit of advice that I will leave you with, is to begin analyzing your own games. When you lose a game, especially games where you feel you were utterly destroyed by your opponent, go back to the beginning and watch the game unfold, move by move. It usually isnāt too hard to see when a particular move you play ends up giving the enemy a strong advantage. Whether it be they invaded you, you left an opening in your defense that they exploited, or you wasted stones trying to achieve a goal, like capturing a group, while your opponent took advantage of your distraction; building the framework of your defeat. You donāt have to spend much time doing this, but if you take the time, it will be possible for you to begin identifying your weaknesses as a player and with your tactics.
I wish you the best of luck on your Go journey. Please feel free to friend me and challenge me to a game in the future . I love 9x9 Correspondence games. I also organize a lot of 9x9 tournaments for Chinese Rules in my group Chinese Tournaments, if you are interested. We have a lot of players in the 20K to 25K range . Take care and I wish you the best of luck!
Thank you so much for such a detailed respons. I dont quite know how to do it justice. Some of the things you mention Iām already doing. Some Iām definitely not and will try to use and learn from.
Iām using the Analyze Game tool, but only a few moves a head. Iāve learned that if Iām rushing or just in a bad mood my game suffers. Iām digging into 81 Little Lions. Iām going over my games, especially beginnings where theres less to react to and Iām sometimes completely destroyed. Usually when theres a more established pattern on the board I do better.
And this, so much this: āā¦or you wasted stones trying to achieve a goal, like capturing a group, while your opponent took advantage of your distraction; building the framework of your defeat.ā
Iāve send you a friend request
Iāll also throw my hat in and say that Iād be happy to help. Though I would prefer live games over correspondance (I also think it benefits new players more) itās entirely your choice.
Thanks, Legault. And thank you for the game and review.
It is really helpfull.
Hey I saw you answering a post about giving teaching games. If you are interessted you cant try to teach me by playing some (live) games. Im played go in the past but i forgot a lot so I pretty much strating from the bottom now. If you are still interessted i would be happy about a reply of you. thanks
Haha, I just replied to your other post . I would be happy to do a live game with you. I just never know when I will be online. I am āon callā for my work 24/7, so Iām on and off throughout the day. If you happen to be on when I am on, I wouldnāt mind playing a live game at all. Iāve sent you a message and a friend request on OGS. Hopefully we can match up soon