2022: HOLD MY TEA! šŸµ

I find myself wasting multiple hours reading Wikipedia multiple times a month, I don’t think this point really works (or maybe I’m a bad example, but I know enough of my friends get lost reading Wikipedia as well)…

I believe that this is a common myth (that young people nowadays have less attention that young people in the old days), that I once saw debunked in a psychology magazine.

Usually I put this on the pile of ā€œold people trying to devalue the lives of young peopleā€ arguments, with things like ā€œvideo games cause violenceā€, or ā€œmodern art is decliningā€.

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Tragic :frowning:

Too many clothes are made. Too many original recipes for fish and chips are made. Too many Marvel films are made. Too many history sources are used. We also have too many newspapers and news outlets and too many social media and too many adults with a degree. It would be ideal to just have one source of fun and information, preferably controlled by the state, not wasting the youth’s time and resources that could be used for making roads and bri… Oh wait!

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Now you’ve gone TOO FAR!!!

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And not that good films, either…

#isaidwhatisaid

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Found it and ordered it. Thank you very much for that suggestion :slight_smile:

I like that as well … to ā€œtrickā€ steam, I just go through the games that are below 20 euros.
Games from larger studios are all 30+ nowadays, so if you take those out, you are left with what is more likely a small company game or an indie.

Zachtronics games ROCK :smiley:

Render me impressed! How many games do you have in there?

I meant that this is a topic that does get a few studies.

As you can see it is not ā€œdebunkedā€ yet, but it is a field that needs quite a lot of study before there is any conclusion.

Hardly. I even mentioned how myself is affected by all that. I do not have the patience anymore to wait for 15 hours for a 5mb file.

Plus I didn’t say anything devaluing. All I mentioned is that the over-abundance of choices is an insidious problem that will mostly affect younger people. How is that devalueing ? :thinking:

Not to mention that there are, of course, positive results to the whole overload. For example, I see small kids understanding English at a very young age due to the whole new information that are being exposed to.
That is good.
They also quit easily when they lose in a game because there are 123424545 games available.
That is bad.

Do you think most kids would play Battletoads (the notorious NES version) today or just dump the game and opt for something less punishing?

But if that is all you had for Christmas then you bet you are playing that game for months.

Yes, that is why I said it is an insidious problem. I am honestly sorry, but I cannot explain it any better. We’ll just have to wait. :slight_smile:

Whoever said that there are not positives? Why do things have to be taken to the extreme?
All I am saying is that there are SOME drawbacks to the current situation, not that there are no positive things.

We did the sticks too … the cats not really … we threw stones at each other. Much bigger targers and less nimble :stuck_out_tongue: plus everyone here likes cats. We cannot say the same about each other ahahah

I do not disagree with that, but you are stretching that example too thin.
The point was that when you have fewer choices you get to be more focused in succeeding on the choices you have.
When you cannot ā€œquit and choose something elseā€, what else can you do than persevere and try to get better?

Actually yes:

That is the OPs point which I already said was ā€œillogicalā€ … :roll_eyes:

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I’m solo player.
Civ V modded (compulsory!) is a must.
Civ VI AI is far too dumb to enjoy the game.

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Religious victory I found to be the most difficult win condition; NotTooBadism triumphed in the end though :expressionless:

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Which is the ideal outcome for many political and/or religious leaders.

I always thought this is a tricky question, one pertaining to some ā€œappointed placeā€ or ā€œcastā€. Also, what good is becoming perfect in your field, if the price to pay is a lack of exit points?

I had an encyclopedia once. It got outdated so fast I had to use post-it notes on the articles. Wikipedia is not infallible, but it is a good place to begin searches, with a critical mind.

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Best religion name ever! Can we make that a thing for 2022? :slight_smile:

There are a lot of ideal outcomes for those groups … e.g. getting people introduced, trapped and swamped into a lot of internet unscientific, illogical, parapolitical cults is also an ā€œideal outcomeā€.

Again, everything positive has also negative things. Nothing is inherently beneficial.

It depends.
If we are talking professions and life, then ā€œmore choices are usually betterā€
If we are talking games and character building hobbies, like we do, then ā€œproviding less choices might have some meritsā€.
Please do note the bolded words so that we can avoid any misunderstandings.

Of course the lack of choices sometimes can be destructive since you might have a rare talent that will go to waste or will never be discovered. A friend of mine was a child prodigy in table tennis in Germany, before he had to move back here, in the middle of nowhere where you have to swim to get to the nearest table tennis table.
Talent wasted :confused:

Again, life is not like a coin, but a d20 dice … there are a lot of facets to it.

If you ask me for what I think is the perfect mix, then that is the ability to have many activities and hobbies (so that if you have a talent even in something obscure, then you can cultivate and enjoy it), but not the ability to easily quit them once you had your first defeat or drawback.
But that is up to the parents to achieve and provide that ā€œwill to persevereā€ to their children, which was just my point that most people are not doing.

A lot of parents start idealistically when their kids are ā€œon the wayā€ saying stuff about how much time they will invest and that they will not let them near tablets and stuff until they are 13+ and old and mature enough to regulate themselves and blah blah blah.
Most of them get swamped by the everyday stress to make ends meet and, in the end, cave in and get a tablet for their kids around age 3 and let the tablet fill a lot of the child’s ā€œempty timeā€ so that the parents can catch a break from their hectic day.
There the child can ā€œgame hopā€ and does not learn that ā€œif it puts in some effort, there will be rewardsā€ but that ā€œif you switch games, there will be rewardsā€.
And who here disagrees that mobile games are very well designed to do that?
Adults get hooked on those and toddlers somehow can have the willpower to critically analyse gameplay loops? :thinking:

I could be wrong of course, but I am just saying what is usually happening.

Again, if we are talking profession and life, this might not be a good choice if your profession ever becomes obsolete or depended on something else, though people can argue that if you really want to be a master of your craft you have to be laser-focused (e.g. Christiano Ronaldo and Giannis Antetokoumpo). Then again most people want to make a living, so that kind of mentality usually does not apply to us normal people.
It can also be argued that a broader sense of knowledge and education will, in fact, benefit you in your chosen field (an old famous Japanese Go pro used to be an advocate of not ā€œjust being a Go player and nothing elseā€, but sadly his name eludes me) and I think that there is a lot of truth in that.
It can also be argued that a good balance and being a jack of all trades is an even better, more fluid, more flexible and, ultimately, more sustainable result/goal.
etc etc

Valid ideas all of them.

ok, one and a half month in and 2022 is really creating some competition.

There was a murder in Greece of a football fan and there was the good idea for players in on game to hold a ā€œno moreā€ sign (which is already weird because not everyone in Greece speaks English, but hey).

This is the result and it looks good:

However, this is the OTHER team:

Maybe I should have put that in the language learner’s topic where people might know if this, at least, means something, anything, in another language? :innocent:

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Well, they can always send it to us for safekeeping.

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I forgot to make a ā€œhm, this needs two eyesā€ ykyaga joke, I sincerely apologize.

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THIS JUST IN for 2022:
9 >> 27

You might ask why. Well, noone knows how it works, but in a recent vote count in a municipality council in Greece, 9 votes for ā€œyesā€, outvoted the 25 votes for ā€œnoā€. So, there you have it. Practical proof ahahaha :rofl:

No idea what the context is for this, but I would guess it’s one of those situations where the pass rate is something like 75 or 100, rather than 50. :man_shrugging:

It is pretty simple, of what I’ve read what happened.
Let’s say I make a poll that says ā€œdo you want to turn OGS into a checkers server?ā€
Obviously most people will vote ā€œnoā€, right?
However OGS will turn into a checkers server regardless, because I didn’t give you an alternative choice. The law here apparently says that in such cases if there is no alternative suggestion/proposal, then the original proposal passes by default, even if the majority of people vote against it.

Trully Greece is the country that invented democracy :rofl: and now re-invented both it and mathematics.
We make them, we break them. :innocent:
Welcome to the OCS yay!

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Well, if it was such a bad idea… someone should have been able to come up with a competing option :wink: haha

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