I actually hope you are right on that and that fewer people show up, which will mean that there will not be a need to cut corners and let people pass unchecked like we did last year.
What worries me is that despite the huge economical issues that covid created everywhere, there will be pressure for people to just “go away and vent some steam”. A lot of people want and actually feel like they need to do that, so I won’t be surprised if people spend money they do not have on a huge booze-fest type of getaway.
People that have been under pressure and have been contained for so much time will spring out to do whatever stupid thing comes to their mind if someone else tells them that it is “ok” and “safe” to go there and do it. Travel agencies will be eager to do that. And governments will also be eager to send the most volatile of their citizens to run amok somewhere else to cool off.
I don’t know if their countries will be accommodating to take them back
On a less serious note, I am not sure that they are very happy to see the “barf on the pavement for 7 nights and call it a great week” kind of people return home, but they always took them back all the previous times, so there is a favourable precedent.
Unfortunately/fortunately we are already onto people in their 50s here so by the end of June it seems not impossible that a good fraction of 20 somethings might be vaccinated at least a first dose.
I think financial hardship is one of the great disparities of the pandemic. The impact on finances is highly uneven. If you still have a job, then by now you are likely much better off than you were before. Income basically unaffected and enforced hard saving for about 6 months of the last 12. I think a lot of people now have money to burn and are desperate to do that somewhere sunny.
Plus, people have also built up a surplus of leave so I can imagine the will be some who might decide they fancy two or three holidays over the course of June to September. And obvs not all in the same place… Fingers crossed the vaccines can take the weight of expectation placed on them…
Very unclear atm I would say. If you watch 3 million randomly chosen people closely for several weeks, the likelihood of a few of them dying for similar reasons is fairly high. Same for 3 million vaccinated people. That of course doesn’t mean there is no problem. Just that’s it’s not so easy to tell.
Something that annoys me atm: Several international organisations are complaining about rich countries grabbing all (well, most) vaccines. Everyone seems to at least sort of agree. But in Europe the general mood also seems to be that the EU entirely failed in their vaccination efforts so far. Clearly, very clearly the consensus seems to be that the EU should have grabbed a lot more. I never have seen or heard anyone connecting the dots between those 2 views.
Now, would I - living in a rich country - personally want to wait with vaccination until every nurse and doctor in the world and everyone older than me is vaccinated? If I’m honest: no. But I am reluctant to say the EU should have been buying a lot more aggressively. There is a conflict there, can we please at least acknowledge that?
I think the concern is some are buying more than they need, to sell them at insane profit later (which is the MO of all super-rich people anywhere ever).
My problem in Europe is that is appears we have a lot of vaccinations in storage, but they’re not administered fast enough. Not the lack of vaccines, but the lack of infrastructure is annoying me, although to be honest I haven’t read much corona related news in the last month or so, so maybe this an old-fashioned idea…
Doesn’t sound like there is a huge problem in administering them, especially if you take into account that many countries hold back some for second doses, because deliveries are not reliable.
I don’t know about most other EU countries, but here in Germany, we have an enormous problem with organising the vaccinations fast enough. Might be that there’s also a problem with the EU not distributing vaccines fast enough to the member states, however, Germany has not been able to vaccinate the share that it got so far anyway. Too much bureaucracy. Bad organization. Inflexible (and decentralized) political and healthcare structures.
If we keep this pace, I’ll get vaccinated in two years or so.
At the same time, everyone is just so tired of the neverending lockdown (which was a result of politicians being reluctant to act in the first place) and now some things are reopened even though the numbers don’t support that.
To be honest, I’m also quite impatient by now – and I’m mad because of how bad this whole crisis has been handled so far.
Well, numbers can be misleading.
In our country they had promised us around Nov 2020 (when they had no vaccines yet ) that they’d have close to two million people vaccinated by now and they had rolled out plans with much fanfare and powerpoint slides on how great and fast and efficient they’d be in getting this done.
Of course none of that happened. In reality the numbers are much lower and the following “funny” thing happened:
If you want to get the Pfizer vaccine and you live in my town you have to:
Travel to the nearby village that has a ferry.
Get on the ferry and cross to the mainland.
Travel 120km in a cyclical way towards a small town that has gotten the Pfizer vaccine center.
Return by the opposite process and re-do that for the second dose.
And all these while the area is in a strict lockdown where we are not allowed to travel 4km away from our town, but the ministry of health sends us on an hours long round trip far away in the mainland.
Why is it so far away you might ask? Here lies the “problem”: Technically it is not, because that particular town is 30 kilometers away, on a straight line, on the map. In reality though, with the roads and actual location taken into consideration is it a 3hour go trip just to get there.
Why did this happen? Because the automatic system does not take into account the road distance, but the “straight line” distance. I am not making this up. The top official for the whole geographic region admitted that on radio, when people complained. He really went on the radio and said that.
They probably copied the software from some other European country where things are flatter and with less islands and the “straight line” algorithm gives a “close enough” projection of where you need to go. The problem has been known for a month, it hasn’t been fixed yet.
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Germany has received 11.4 million doses (most of these within the last few weeks I think) and administered 8.4 million doses. Germany belongs to the countries that has hald back 2nd doses as a reserve to ensure it can happen. (One can disagree about that strategy of course, but it is consistent.) Also many people have rejected the astrazeneca vaccine. The organisation isn’t perfect, but I’d say it’s the lack of enough doses that’s the bottleneck, nothing else.
Anecdotally: It took my wife about half an hour to get an appointment when she tried on the first day she could. Is that so bad?
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I went to check just to be fair … turns out I remembered things wrong. The minister of health hadn’t claimed that we would have vaccinated 2 million people my March. Oh no … he claimed that we would be vaccinating 2117440 people PER MONTH ahahahahahaahah
I guess it was so absurd that my own mind hadn’t wanted to remember it correctly
This is what happens when the minister of health is a former basketball player, eh?
Louder please. Every community; a small family, a Go server, a Province, and a Nation needs some way to make collective decisions.
It seems every nation on Earth recognises the value of vaccinating health-care workers first but collectively as a Planet and Species we are incapable of doing so.
‘Yes’, I would be happy to wait even though I can’t work from home, my services are essential and many of those I work with are morons with a cavalier attitude to health.
Yep.
) that they’d have close to two million people vaccinated by now and they had rolled out plans with much fanfare and powerpoint slides on how great and fast and efficient they’d be in getting this done.
I am not making this up. The top official for the whole geographic region admitted that on radio, when people complained. He really went on the radio and said that.
