Is it fine to leave comments in chat about game moves, variations and positions during ranked game? Separate polls for correspondence and live.
Edit: to clarify: I mean leaving comments as a player (not spectator) in normal chat so opponent can see, uninvited.
For correspondence game:
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For live game:
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You need to be more clear. Do you mean players or spectators? If you mean players, do you mean normal game chat or malcovich logs?
It depends.
Does the other stated, he wants those comments. How many comments?
Ok, I clarified some more but doesnât mind the polls, the polls are just an invitation to a conversation. And in a conversation we can discuss all the options!
Basically during the game, especially correspondence, opponent can resign at any moment, and leave, and you wonât see each other ever again~ So If I notice something interesting, I drop some comments about it. Maybe opponent will answer or feel good about themselves because of a compliment Iâve given. But it can be seen as annoying as well, as an attempt to influence opponentâs line of thinking or behaving like youâve already won.
So three questions I guess are: do you comment on the games while youâre playing them, how do you go about it, and how do you feel when opponent drops a comment.
I said yes because I give for granted that we are talking about polite comments, not bullying or shaming the opponent.
Usually I donât comment otherâs moves but it happened that I comment my own mistakes or oversights.
Last comment was âI need some vacationâ after a silly mistake I made and just before resigning. 
I do enjoy chatting with my opponents, no matter if its corr, live or irl, or if its ranked or unranked, i still like chatting while i am playing ^^
my favourite games involve some chat. it makes it more friendly amd takes the edge off of things.
if my opponent is not chatting then i stop. apart from the obligatory âthanks for the gameâ
Iâm pretty sure if you ask forum users you will have quite a big bias as they are probably way more likely to want to discuss.
I donât see a problem with chatting unless maybe it is a tournament game or something. If your opponent doesnât like, youâll find out soon enough. No harm done. But these days I donât even get a âhelloâ from most of my opponents, so forget about chatting.
Itâs a tough subjective question. I think it comes down to what the two players involved are okay with. Some pairs might prefer tons of chat, while others might wish to remain silent.
However, if thereâs a difference of preferences, I think it is better to defer toward the preference of less chat.
Personally, I wonât initiate conversation and generally only say âHello, have a good gameâ at the beginning and âThank you for the gameâ at the end (I mainly just do this to avoid offending any that might expect this and Iâm not offended if they say nothing in return). I think a small amount of friendly comments from my opponent acceptable, but I generally dislike discussing an ongoing game.
I didnât answer the poll, because my answer would be âIt depends.â I love chatting in a correspondence game with someone I know, but would hesitate to do so with a complete stranger. I wouldnât do so in a timed live game, as it would be distracting, I think. However, last weekend at my IRL game, we stopped in the middle of an untimed 13x13 game to discuss a variation that didnât occur because we wanted to do so while it was fresh. We both felt good about it, me for setting it up and him for avoiding it.
Actually the answer is ânoâ (depending what you mean).
The Terms of Service state that you are not allowed to receive assistance during a ranked game. Any specific comment about moves in the game in progress, and especially exploration of variations, is likely to lend assistance and is not allowed.
You are allowed to say âOh, darn, that was a mistakeâ or âOh, good moveâ, even though technically even these can lend assistance. Everyone knows that players will acknowledge each otherâs moves, this is just polite conversation (*).
However, you are not allowed to say âDid you see that K10 would have been betterâ or âI was afraid of this variationâ.
Put these things in Malkovitch, so they appear to your opponent the moment the game finishes.
*: My personal experience is that every time I do this, I regret it later. Either it wasnât actually a mistake and I spot that after I said it, or some other reason to regret commenting on the actual state of play. Personally, I have found conversation during the game is best to be about non-game entirely, but thatâs just me.
See, I knew someone would have different opinion. Personally, I feel saying
is completely ok.
Ha, receive assistance, not give assistance. So I can complain about opponent receiving assistance even if itâs me who is giving it.
One of the outcomes of ranked games is to reflect the playerâs skill.
If they receive assistance, even from their opponent, this doesnât work.
Thatâs why teaching games are unranked.
The line has to be drawn somewhere, and the rules are clear.
I realised I might be answering a different question than this topic. Iâm answering the question âis it allowed (OK)â.
The question might be âdo you think itâs OK even if itâs not allowed, should we change the rulesâ.
Personally, I would oppose that also, because it is good to have clear lines, and changing it would blur the lines.
Isnât there a distinct difference between discussing possible alternative outcomes to resolved positions and talking about undecided areas of the board? I donât think many people would discuss future or current moves during a ranked game, but perhaps something like choice of local joseki after the fact or something of the likeâŚ
âDid you realise K10 would have been betterâ is an example of a comment about a past move that still draws attention to the future possibilities.
Itâs a really slippery slope. If you want a âdiscussion about the gameâ game, why not play unranked?
If you want your opponent to see your comments before they leave. why not Malkovitch?
I vehemently disagree with this statement. if the position is settled, pointing out the missed opportunity at K10 is very different than discussing future moves or giving them advice.
The logic doesnât seem right here.
If you ask why would K10 have been better, you talk about the structures on the board. If you talk about the structures on the board, you draw attention to their features, which at the very least affects direction of play, and typically aji and other opportunities.
This appears to be a very passionate position for you.
Can you elaborate on what is the problem? Why is it that during a competitive game, the players must be able to talk about it?
If you want a friendly chat, whatâs wrong with unranked?
If you want a competition, so you play ranked, why do you think itâs OK to collaborate on the game with your opponent?
These are genuine understanding questions, not rhetoric to establish a contrary position.
No chatting about the game unless you know the opponents enough. Definitely no unsolicited advice.
Other context worth considering, the difference between talking about your own moves and talking about your opponents movesâŚ
True. At least âArgh that was a mistakeâ is talking about my own move, but unfortunately it prompts the opponent to think about why.
In my opinion our current rules (and interpretation) allow you to say that. Primariily because in real life you are allowed to grimace.
However, in a real life competition you are not allowed to say âdid you think about K10â, and I think that applies to ranked here.
