I meant the verb expect as require, claim. Didnāt mean to offend you, I know you would keep playing.
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No, because they have had access to private communication with other players already. Gia is already in the kibitz log, which is even worse.
I donāt believe we need a replacement here anyways, I havenāt seen @martin3141 asking to stop playing.
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Ok, glad to see that you are still part of the game, despite your earlier wordsā¦
Relieved to hear that this was all part of the game as a sympathy ploy, rather than actual hurt feelings and a rage quit.
Hoping that things have cooled down a little, Iād just like to say a few things.
First of all, I invite everybody not to take this game literally: what happens in the game is not meant to have repercussions IRL, otherwise it wouldnāt be a game.
I personally have an ironical attitude towards what happens in this context, and I enjoy to play according to a character, which I think was even encouraged by the use of flags and by the description of your ācountryā. I enjoy the shakespearean atmosphere created by the game and I experience it as a story being told. Of course, each being the protagonist of their own story, all the players will wish the best for their character, but thereās always a distinction between person and character.
Also, we are playing a game of Diplomatic Go: what weāre ultimately supposed to do is to gain as much territory as possible with or without the help of other players, a help which shouldnāt be held as a commitment to perpetual loyalty.
As for you, martin, I wasnāt trying to get rid of you, I just proposed that to give you the opportunity to drop out in case you felt forced to keep playing, for the sake of levity.
Also, I attacked you in the game for my personal benefit, like I think Iām supposed (or allowed at least) to, not because I was unwilling to forgive you, since I donāt think you did anything wrong, morally speaking.
I had thought of elaborating on why I had distrusted you but, quite frankly, it feels unnatural to explain my decisions in a game in order to defend myself on a personal level. I enjoyed talking with you in the private chat, and of course this created a bond with you that went beyond the game itself because thatās what happens when two people talk about something they both like imo. Which doesnāt mean anything in the game, since there weāre just characters, or players, or however you wanna call that.
Iāve tried to sum up everything in this post, as I donāt want to keep talking about it, thus creating a long discussion. Sorry if itās too long.
So again fellas, letās all just take the game for what it is and have fun. Itās not a real war, fun is what itās all about. Gghf everyone!
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Now please letās calm down. We knew what we were signing up for when itās called āDiplomatic Goā: intrigues, backstabbing, and mistrust on a Game of Thrones-level. I agree that to kick those who are already down has always the aftertaste of a dick move. But a bad play happens to everybody.
And let us keep these things in mind: we fight the board, not the person (to quote @trohde); and while the enemies we make in a game are fake, the friends we make are real.
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You are absolutely correct. I fear that I hurt peopleās feelings, and have hence withdrawn my posts.
I want to apologise for being too emotional and toxic. Like you said backstabbing is part of the game.
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I wish that you had not deleted your posts. You can withdraw their intent, but still leave the words as a record of what had been said.
Donāt worry, you have not hurt my feelings. Backstabbing is part of the game, but so is the vivid expression of emotion as part of the nuance of communication and manipulation, even if it might come across as toxic. However, I donāt think youāve been particularly toxic. Please donāt feel bad.
I trust that we can all distinguish between our interaction within this game vs outside of it.
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Which one is it now?
Both, the first is talking about the start of Round 17, the second is talking about the start of Round 18.
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About post deletion, although it is not explicitly stated in the ruleset, it should be the case that deletion or alteration of posts is frowned upon.
I am certain that people can continue this game without hurt feelings, it is but a game after all. Therefore I have restored the deleted posts (since it seems the system does not allow that to be done by the user themselves after mass-deleting messages)
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Even the game master frowns upon me. I feel very sad and not welcome here. I will submit a standing order of passes.
Sorry if I chime in, but this looks like an action by Vsotvep the Forum Mod, not Vsotvep the Game Master.
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I donāt frown upon you, I frown upon deleting messages in a correspondence game that is about diplomacy and thus heavily relies on communication. Some of the players may not have been online to see the messages. This is the public game thread, and all messages posted here should be read by all players of the game.
To be clear, I would act the same with other players deleting messages.
I asked Martin in private to restore the messages, but it seems the system does not allow to do so. I acted as forum mod in assisting in restoring those messages, but as game master in deciding that messages should not be deleted.
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I think it is well within the purview of the Game Master to set such communication standards for the game. Itās just a practical convenience that he is also a moderator that is able to implement some actions.
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In the absence of a move submission from @martin3141, Round 17 will be extended 24 hours.
The new deadline is 2020-11-06T21:00:00Z
I feel terrible and I apologise for everything I wrote. I do not know how to continue now. I neither want to just abandon the game and inconvenience all participants, nor do I want to be part in intrigues and the likes anymore.
Donāt overthink it martin. No harm no foul. Noone has taken offence in what you said.
One of the two songs I got my name from is the following one:
It motivates me, when Iām feeling like shit, to hear these words: āNothing can stop me now, cause I donāt care anymoreā
It helps a lot when I feel like I care too much.
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End of Round 17
@martin3141 has issued a standing pass from this round onwards, and thus has not placed a move.
@Leira and 
@Sanonius collided with each other for their first choice. @Leira managed to play their second choice, while @Sanonius did not, since their second choice collided with the stone placed by 
@Haze_with_a_Z as a first choice. @Sanonius did manage to play their third choice.
As @martin3141ās stone at B1 is the only stone without liberties, it is removed from the board.
Any player with 5 stones or less on the board is eliminated at the start of Round 18.
All players enter Round 18 with at least 6 stones, therefore nobody is not eliminated.
| Player | 1st move |
2nd move |
3rd move |
|---|---|---|---|
 @le_4TC
|
L13 | ||
 @PiggyStardust
|
D6 | ||
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@martin3141
|
Pass | Pass | Pass |
|
@Sanonius
|
M1 | M4 | A1 |
|
@Haze_with_a_Z
|
M4 | ||
 @yebellz
|
B13 | ||
|
@Leira
|
M1 | J3 |
Round 18
In order not to be eliminated at the start of next round, a player needs 6 or more stones on the board.
Round 18 starts with the following position.
Please submit your next moves before 2020-11-07T21:00:00Z
Current number of stones per player:
| Player | #stones | |
|---|---|---|
|
@le_4TC
|
15 | |
|
@PiggyStardust
|
16 | |
|
@martin3141
|
11 | |
|
@Sanonius
|
7 | |
|
@Haze_with_a_Z
|
15 | |
|
@yebellz
|
17 | |
|
@Leira
|
16 |
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If anybody wishes to continue playing as 
Orange, please make yourself known to me.
It appears Martin has tossed the towel into the ring, and does not feel like playing on. I have contacted several players to ask for replacement, but Iām failing to find anyone who is not in the kibitz thread alreadyā¦ If youāre reading this and feel like joining the game, please let me know.
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I am sorry for letting everybody down. I wasnāt able to appropriately process the situation emotionally.
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