Discussion about R16,P16,M16

Joseki
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At position R16,P16,M16, @S_Alexander started the conversation:

What’s the simplest continuation for white here? Playing 1 leaves a lot of places to mess up. I want something simple here.

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The AlphaGo–Lee variation?

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@Animiral said:

The simplest and most underrated answer to a lot of pincers is tenuki.

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@Animiral said:

If you have already done that and your opponent just insists on giving you sente here, try the outside attachment (4). Black can choose to bump for massive complications, but the other branches…

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@Animiral said:

… are all tame.

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@gennan said:

Many optimal responses to a pincer are complicated. Simple variations don’t always exist, even when you want it.

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@gennan said:

But tenuki is often one of the simplest options.

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Sometimes it is good to be tame.
But here is one somewhat more daring and complicated.

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I had to read that twice, the first time it rhymed with dame :smiley: :smiley:

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@S_Alexander said:

Tenuki feels as if setting yourself up for even more complications later on. Because opponent will add another stone at some point and now it’ll look like they get a real lot so you have to fight.

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@S_Alexander said:

And you have to fight from one stone against many position.

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