Are the white stones on the same line?
Third line
Is at least one of the white stones not on the second line?
The key is
I donât know what that means?
These examples were an attempt to show the lines completely filled.
The stone you were concerned about being on the second line is at 2-3. So itâs both on the second and the third line, from different perspectives.
(Normally in go you would only consider it as the second line, but for this rule itâs counted as both)
I donât blame you for thinking the rule would be easier @RubyMineshaft, it looks so reasonable when you know it!
I think the trouble is that there is so much other noise in the boards weâre looking at, so the pattern doesnât stand out. Maybe with the more traditional definition of âsecond lineâ it would have been easier.
Indeed, we are not talking about this. Extend all the lines in this diagram to the edge of the board, and you get the definition that @RubyMineshaft was working with.
So for instance, all of these are counted as being on the third line:
I think we can all agree that the creator of the next rule should make it almost as easy as possible
Yes, I meant that the statement of the rule as @RubyMineshaft had it looked reasonable, but I would have interpreted that statement like you did (like your first diagram). In hindsight that was a confusing choice to make, but thatâs hard to know in advance, we all see the board differently and have different experiences to draw on.
Sorry guys, I guess that was a lapse in my go understanding. I thought that was how lines worked.
It made it a lot harder than you intended, but it is still a very valid rule We just werenât quite ready for something so difficult.
Like a stone on a 3-4 point Iâve always considered to be on both the third and fourth lines.
I think whatâs really confusing about this rule is that if you took away all the stones bar two that are currently on the same âlineâ, and now read the rule
you wouldnât think, oh yeah theyâre all the same distance from the edge.
Yeah, distance from the edge is a confusing way to put it. But I think we all understand what was meant now.
I thought the âdistance from an edgeâ bit made senseâŚ