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Koan_786

All green

Koan_789 Koan_788

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There are 15 cases so far with a stone on tengen. Only 3 of them are green. Coincidence or some correlation with the rule???

My gut feeling says it’s about liberties and group size and it hasn’t to do anything with tengen. I’d guess we can add an empty line to an empty edge of the board without changing the result. This would allow to move the center of the board away from the stones.

But it’s all just guessing and feeling at this point for me.

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From these two we know that it cannot be purely based on group size and liberties. The rule has to depend on absolute board position in some way.

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You’re both right!

Oh, good point.

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And yet most koans so far have only lone stones! We don’t know much about groups with more than one stone!

So this botched thing is green too?
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6b86e9b0f1e4ab2c2f95abc018a2a1d649f5803f
Definitely red

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Then this is wrong. (And actually just looking thoroughly at 746 and 750 would have disproved that hypothesis.)

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Let me try to create more greens with stones on tengen then:
Koan_793
Koan_792

One red, one green

Koan_795 Koan_794

Link to all koans

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I’ve combined green shapes (once) and it turned out green, now let me combine red and green:
Koan_796

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Green!

Koan_797

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Another test, this time using (partial) reflection, to investigate what matters regarding 783 and 795:

Koan_798
Koan_799

One green, one red:
Koan_801 Koan_800

Hint: The rule is reflection- and rotation-invariant.

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I think posts can only be edited for 30 days, and I’ve been the Universe for far too long already!

  • Koans are valid go positions on any rectangular board
  • The rule is invariant to rotation and reflection
  • You can post koans or rule guesses; in the case of a wrong rule guess I will provide one or more counterexamples.

Green

Red

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A few bonus koans from rounds 1 and 2 at the beginning of this thread:

Koan_804 Koan_805 Koan_806 Koan_807 Koan_808

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Koan_809
Koan_810
Koan_811