That was not shouting. And uppercase is also used for emphasis, and this was the case. I prefer it instead of formatting options.
So, analysis enabled will allow SGF download all the time. Okey. Thank you for the information.
I tried to search a thread with what I wanted, but I did not find it. If this thread is a FAQ question, it can be found for the next person who (as me) tries to search for it next time.
Personally, I think the 2 things should NEVER affect each other. Game analysis and SGF download are ideas clearly different. I do not like some things that I see written or involve analysis… but I will have to see what they will be, since I will be using “SGF download on” from now.
(and this “NEVER” above, again, was not shouting)
I like to experiment playing, and sometimes simply to see the game in a program I have, which looks better, instead of seeing it in OGS. OGS does not save theme! I always have to change settings. EVERYWHERE! (this is shouting)
I preferred that my settings were remembered. But much better than that is to download the SGF of any game, BEFORE (emphasis) it finishes, to see the game, see and think about the move my opponent just did, before I decide which one I will make.
Testing a few variations before playing any more is much simpler than I think “analysis” is, and usually mean. This is a considerable difference from what you seem to think in your last paragraph question.
If download is disabled, I will simply mimic the board I want to play with automatically, and generate an SGF for that, every time. In direct words, I think that disabling it is stupid and useless, but annoying.
About shouting and emphasis with upper case words, I will usually find some reason, in the context and ideas of whoever writes something, to know she/he is shouting. Just a few words, among several, will be rarely a shout with offending intention. And if this bad aspect is ignored, I see no problem in the resulting discussion. Unless worse things happen, but they will be separated and have their own consequences. I think the total summing of everything has no trouble.
I did not clearly offend you or anyone. The thought line I used is not nervous — I think someone hardly will see this in the words I used, and commonly use, together with the punctuation in them.
“Seeing the stone” you “will possibly play” ​ is at least closer to fine.
However, I got the impression that your ​ testing a few variations ​ was by
setting up the game-position on a different board and then changing it
to something which is not just ​ ​ ​ that position plus one of your stones ​ .
If download is disabled, I will simply mimic the board I want to play with automatically, and generate an SGF for that, every time. In direct words, I think that disabling it is stupid and useless, but annoying.
This is annoying because you’re not supposed to do that. If you’d like to test variations, please play with analysis enabled.
My curiosity requires me to ask whether boldface capitalisation constitutes shouting. Seeing that the use of boldface for emphasis is not preferred by:
Saving settings on devices only is far from enough.
Cookies are not blocked (I would not even be able to play a single game or post here without them, would I?).
Settings are not saved! If they were saved in the device I am using, changing the browser would not make me lose them! So, your statement is not clear about what happens.
Saving settings locally is not enough, unless I could have this as a file (possibly as simple as a text file like /etc/xpdf/xpdfrc, which can be edited with a simple text editor, if one wants, and copied as wished too), and have it loaded as a GET argument after I login. And saving settings locally means that OGS does NOT save them! There is not a single byte of settings in my OGS data account, is there?
Two subjective choices and preferences. And I do not care. SGF downloads should always exist, even when I wants that my opponent does not do analysis in the game.
Disabling the SGF download is supposed to hint to people that they should not be analysing the game in an SGF editor, since that would breach the agreement between the players not to use analysis.
Indeed, you can never be sure of it, but that does not mean we should make it as easy as possible for people to (unknowingly) cheat. On the contrary, we should make it hard, and disable the on-site methods that would constitute cheating (in this case, use of analysis).
Playing out moves, even if it is not trying out several different branches, is, to me, a form of analysis, since seeing the stone on the board instead of in your head gives you an advantage over an opponent. You might not have been aware that this is considered cheating, but as you can see by the responses in this thread: it is; unless analysis has been enabled.
So, the following two situations exist:
Analysis is enabled, and you can download the SGF and analyse it in your own editor, if you are so inclined
Analysis is disabled, and you should not analyse the game, neither on OGS nor in your own editor.
There is no need for a third solution where SGF downloads are allowed in games where analysis is disabled, since that situation is only compatible with cheating.