I need help! teaching game for a very demoralized ddk

Hi, I’m looking for some teaching games for a ddk (realistically, 13k). I can’t see the value of my moves, I can’t read moves, I don’t know how to use josekis, I don’t know how to profit from influence. I’m very disoriented about the game in general and I don’t know where to start.

I’m thinking about giving up tbh…
Thanks for anyone who could consider helping a brother out

You can find me under the nickname ( IIIlllIII ) Copy and paste it, trust me… (three caps lock i, three lower case L, and again three caps lock i)

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That’s just normal. I’m a 5 k currently and could have written those sentences.

I don’t have time for teaching games atm, but I’m sure you’ll find someone else. Good luck!

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Did you recently delete your account on the main site?

This username doesn’t exist anymore.

There’s lots of aspect to go that take time to get used to improve, it can be overwhelming now, and even when you improve, there might be another level where it again feels overwhelming :slight_smile:

But there should be people, books, videos and other resources to help in any case :slight_smile:

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At 13 kyu, you probably know more than you think. Of course there’s still a lot to learn, but getting there is already an achievement.

I think it would be helpful to provide some information about what you are expecting. Do you want a live game or correspondence? If live, when are you available? Which form of communication do you prefer? During the game or after, text or voice? Anything you want to focus on?

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All these things are not things you need to master at the DDK level so don’t worry too much. Play more opponents at a similar level and get someone stronger to review your games. It will be even better if you can find a personalized teacher.

All the best!

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This! I agree that the points mentioned are very typical at your level. Some middle game books like “lessons in fondamentals” and “attack and defense” may prove to be very useful.

Take a bit of break but don’t give up, you’re at the point where your fun will grow up quickly.

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Asking for a game review may help a lot. One review may give so much input that you have stuff to improve on for weeks and longer.

I dont mind doing a teaching game with you, with the best of my abilities at least.

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There are many aspects to Go. Think of it as a bar graph and each skill and the sum of your scores reflect your play. I downloaded SmartGo one on iOS and it gives access to Go books. Reading play alpha gos 3-3 and Attacking and defending moyos filled in some of my gaps of knowledge. Gomagic.com is even better and cheaper and more efficient in the long run.

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Yeah I don’t know why I posted it under this nickname… I’m IIIlllIII (three caps I, three lower case L, and again three caps I).

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I’ve read Opening Theory Made Easy, I’ve completed the first volume of Cho Chikun’s Encyclopedia of Life and Death, that I keep studying from time to time… I really feel like I’ve spent more than enough effort to be stronger… I don’t want to pass as egoic or something, I know I can play better than this. I HAVE played better than this… damn. Maybe is something psychological.

everything works for me… I play alone, I have no friends that play the game, there is no go club here where I live, so if anyone wants to chat over a game of mine, it’s more than welcome

anything, literally anything… blitz, live games, I’m online between 17 and 19 GMT+2, correspondence, review, lectures, you name it

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some months ago I was stable between 9 and 10 kyus and where I found the most setbacks were exactly finding big moves, and lack of knowledge about josekis and tesujis outcomes… then again, I got worse, soooo… or maybe I was just lucky, or it was because I kept inflating my score beating 7 and 6 kyus bots on OGS

maybe I have to admit I’ve always been worse than my idea of myself… idk lol

here is a main point, I was at a plateau some months ago, really. I couldn’t get better of an inch… I tried reading books (as I replied to other commenters), I did 3-4 tsumegos a day reading every possible variation on a real goban, I played a lot. At some point I got so discouraged that I dropped the game entirely. Now I got back and I’m worse… foreseeable outcome, yeah. But ya know? that feeling “oh fuck off” and quit OGS once and for all? If there is something missing here, is exactly the FUN

It’s hard to say where you went wrong without looking at your games, but try to play more humans instead of bots. Don’t think so much about winning or losing and just play the best move you can.

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Staying away is alright if you don’t get the fun. A friend had a time just watching games. Even players make progress with a full pause, who knows?

The books I mentioned are not one you have read (for what you wrote), they are not in the kind of problems book but more like thinking on the game.

Maybe you’ll come across some player in the real life and you may have a good time too. (And don’t be shy if so, you know more as what you may think)

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The obligatory note of Dwyrin’s “Back to Basics” series.

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What is your goal? There are various ways to enjoy Go besides by getting better.

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I get what you are saying. Thanks for the feedback. I guess I’m fighting windmills here lol. I struggle to accept that getting better doesn’t come for free and I do not have enough time to invest in reading books and such… As for coming across players in real life, I assure you that’s not possible. I could be very well the only go player in a 100km radius, at least! we have no Go clubs here, the game is practically unknown.

I tried teaching the game to my gf, my colleagues, my brother, and my friends. I’ve also got a real board for just that! Now I use it only for studying Cho Chikun’s Encyclopedias lol

I’m not complaining, just sharing my experience (that I think is a very common exp)

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I’m the kind of guy that gets enjoyment mainly from improvement. My main frustration here - this I want to make clear - is not that “I lose games” or that I’m not playing perfectly every game. Is the fact that I don’t exactly know HOW or WHAT to do to improve. As I just responded to Groin, the fact most likely is that it comes down to sheer repetition and/or trial. I can’t expect someone to say to me “Okay dude, do this, this, this and this and you’ll surely gain 20 stones in tot months”. I have to “fuck around to find out” basically… reading, problems, playing, whatever. And if I don’t have time to do that, well. I have to acknowledge that I won’t get better at the pace I’d like.

But aside from my self-yapping… just out of curiosity, what ways do pop in your mind to enjoy Go besides getting better?

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