Not that I want to get dragged back in to this firestorm I apparently started, but you finally wrote a short post 
I find it amusing that you are using an example of people whose argument and belief you disagree with as proof that controversy doesnât exist 
It is not that I do not agree with their âargumentâ, it is that no actual reader of the Stormlight archive would ever complain about the final fifth book being âtoo longâ when none of the previous four books of the series was smaller that 1000 pages in their hardcover versions.
The second book was provisionally called âThe book of endless pagesâ for Godâs sake and here those people were trying to create drama about âthe length of the final bookâ. 
Imagine someone going âoh, the latest Ferrari? Theyâve lost their touch. It is SO fast and stylish! Horrible!â ⌠
Who would take that seriously? The only question is whether that is some wacky ragebaiters that either do it on purpose or really know nothing about the brand.
P.S.
At least they didnât complain that Sanderson writes too many books.
I dont know what with your examples man? Most often new cars are being critisized because they are âuglyâ compared to previous ones(not because of looks, but overal lack of previous models style and etc. I dont know why you think those people are ragebaiters, honestly, not a big fan of cars but even myself I often had simillar thinking///
It was meant to be a bad example.
A Ferrari is supposed to be fast and stylish. If someone complains about them being so, then they are ragebaiters or have no clue. Either way they get disqualified into taking them seriously and into account in answering the question âwhether people like a Ferrari car or notâ.
I mean you have brought âstylishnessâ point, which is oviuosly debatable, and speed point, wich is tebatable too(Sometimes there are too much for a type of car, etc). I just dont get your point, you think for debatable things(forget speed, LOOKS), there couldnt be any controversy???
Iâll try to put this as simply as possible. When there is an established brand with some very characteristic aspects, then when that brand puts out a new product, you cannot really complain that the brand follows the aspects which made it famous. These aspects are what makes the brand and what people want to buy, when buying said brands.
A Ferrari is stereotypically fast and stylish. Therefore when a new Ferrari comes out you EXPECT it to be âfast and stylishâ and noone familiar with the brand complains about it being so.
A Stormlight archive book is always 1000+ pages. Therefore when a new Stormlight archive book comes out, you EXPECT it to be 1000+ pages and noone familiar with the brand complains about it being so.
When you read an Agatha Christie book with Hercule Poirot there is always a murder. Therefore if Christie was alive and she published a new Poirot book, you EXPECT it to be about a murder, therefore noone familiar with the brand complains about it being so.
and so forthâŚ
You know what those brands/people are about. This is what made them famous, this is why their products sell, so, when those brands remain consistently good with their product the people that do complain about maintaining consistency are either:
a) Ragebaiters that do it for the clicks and engagement
or
b) Totally oblivious/ignorant about what the brand is all about.
In either case, those people should be ignored because âcategory aâ is purposefully creating drama for their own gain and âcategory bâ is ignorant about the basic facts on the issue so, who cares?
Not every complaint should be taken seriously. In fact, it can be argued that in many cases they shouldnât even be considered. If anyone doubts, working for a few months in retail would convince them in practice, without any need for words.
Stereotipicaly stylish? You realise to some extinct thats impossible? You talking about looks, they could be stereotipical, howewer it is debatable, escpecially with a new models. So there WILL be a controversy whether is it stylish or not
I realsie you logic where A is being constant trait and x+A wont be able to complain about it, but thruth is, its the âxâ we are talking about.
For example, someone uses some pattern(4 stripes for example). If they will put on afwull looking car, they will complain about it, especially if they think this stipes ruin the car
âYour expectations - your problemsâ
Ofc there are trademarks, nike logo or adidas and etc, we are not talking about them, and they do not bother anyone(but they could if âxâ was afwul enough)
We are talking about subjective trademarks, like âexpensiveâ or modern looks. For example car brend specializes in expensive cards, no one will complain about. Howewer, there always be a debate whether new car revolutuinisngly good or just âpure sh*tâ, we want old style
Let me be clear, Iâm talking about subjective trademarks, not ones that just exist. Like Stormlight book for 1000 pages, if book is awful I will complain about amount of pages("Why is this **** so long), but if it will be great its a plus, because âWhat a masterpiece that I can read for eternityâ
Its not about trademarks, its always about where they are putting them
Maybe itâs worthwhile to create a new thread for this discussion.
If the book is awful, then you can complain about the book being awful.
Be my guest. I am out, however. That was my final effort.
I honestly cannot express such a simple idea in any simplier terms.
Would you mind if I quote you on this later, hypothetically?
No problem at all.
If youâd like a clarification I am not out of the topic itself (by its nature it is made for a wide variety of questions and polls), but this particular issue that was being discussed. If something else interesting comes up (be it poll or question), I might be keen to participate in that discussion. 
Same here. + To that Iâm sorry for any inconvenience, didnât mean to be rude and everything like that, speaking sincerely. Thanks for the convo!
Does every idea have a simplest terms in which it can be expressed?
r/eli5
Why wonât you accept my no-receipt-return on this grocery cart full of items, most of which you donât even carry?
it is an important philosophical discussion
that thesis would be false if there exists at least one idea which can be expressed in at least two equally simple but different ways with no simpler ways to express said idea. I suspect intuitively that such a counterexample exists, but it would be hard to prove that a proposed counterexample actually is a counterexample
Yes 
Is the simplicity order a well-founded relation� 
Weâd need an infinite sequence of expressions, each entry being simpler than the previous one, but there is no term simpler than all of them that expresses the idea.
I didnât say unique! But youâre right, one (impossible?) challenge is to quantify simplicity. Idk this is the philosopher thread
