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Josekle #1
:green_circle::yellow_circle::white_circle::green_circle::yellow_circle::white_circle::white_circle::white_circle::white_circle:
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:green_circle::green_circle::green_circle::green_circle::green_circle::green_circle::green_circle::green_circle::green_circle:

I got confused about the length, but that should just happen on day one.

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I’ve never seen Josekle #2 before.

But I could figure it out.

Josekle #2
:yellow_circle::white_circle::white_circle::yellow_circle::yellow_circle::white_circle::yellow_circle::white_circle:
:yellow_circle::white_circle::white_circle::green_circle::yellow_circle::white_circle::white_circle::yellow_circle:
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:green_circle::green_circle::green_circle::green_circle::white_circle::green_circle::green_circle::white_circle:
:green_circle::green_circle::green_circle::green_circle::green_circle::green_circle::green_circle::green_circle:

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mild spoilers for the pool of josekis right now

I tried to pick about a dozen of 3-3, 3-4, and 4-4, with more than 4 moves. I see 3-3 so rarely I don’t know which are common, and many are around 4 moves

btw I have a function to help joseki curation, so we can maybe try a second pool if folks want to experiment somehow. will post more later.

also I just learned from a friend that the :yellow_circle: is unsupported on Android 9.0 :thinking:

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Is :yellow_square: and that supported?

I mean it’s not the worst

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I m on the side of Alexander: I like this much more in the end of the game as in the beginning

I might be bad at this game, but I get there in the end :stuck_out_tongue:

Josekle #3 - just emojis, length spoiler warning

Josekle #3

:white_circle::white_circle::white_circle::white_circle::white_circle::white_circle::white_circle::white_circle::purple_circle::white_circle::white_circle::white_circle::white_circle::white_circle:
:white_circle::white_circle::purple_circle::purple_circle::white_circle::white_circle::purple_circle::white_circle::white_circle:
:purple_circle::purple_circle::purple_circle::white_circle::white_circle::white_circle::white_circle::white_circle::white_circle::purple_circle:
:purple_circle::purple_circle::green_circle::white_circle::white_circle::white_circle::purple_circle::white_circle::white_circle::white_circle::white_circle:
:green_circle::white_circle::green_circle::white_circle::white_circle::white_circle::white_circle:
:green_circle::white_circle::green_circle::white_circle::green_circle:
:green_circle::green_circle::green_circle::white_circle::green_circle:
:green_circle::green_circle::green_circle::white_circle::green_circle:
:green_circle::green_circle::green_circle::green_circle::green_circle:

Also I really like the

and purple and green works nicely :slight_smile:

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all right, fixed the date math, should drop at midnight your local time now.

Josekle #3

:white_circle::white_circle::white_circle::white_circle::purple_circle::white_circle:
:green_circle::white_circle::white_circle::white_circle:
:green_circle::green_circle::green_circle::white_circle:
:green_circle::green_circle::green_circle::green_circle:
:green_circle::green_circle::green_circle::green_circle::white_circle:
:green_circle::green_circle::green_circle::green_circle::green_circle:

@yebellz what does the color of the node in the tree signify? just that the variation was submitted? and the color is the hint? I might experiment with the tree later

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Josekle #2
:purple_circle::white_circle::purple_circle::white_circle::white_circle::white_circle::white_circle:
:purple_circle::purple_circle::white_circle::purple_circle::purple_circle::white_circle::white_circle::white_circle::white_circle::white_circle::white_circle:
:purple_circle::white_circle::white_circle::white_circle::white_circle::purple_circle::white_circle::white_circle:
:green_circle::green_circle::green_circle::green_circle::green_circle::white_circle::white_circle:
:green_circle::green_circle::green_circle::green_circle::green_circle::green_circle::green_circle::white_circle:
:green_circle::green_circle::green_circle::green_circle::green_circle::green_circle::green_circle::green_circle:

First time trying Josekle. Pretty fun. :smiley:

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Josekle #3

:white_circle::white_circle::white_circle::white_circle::yellow_circle::white_circle::yellow_circle::white_circle::white_circle::white_circle::white_circle:
:green_circle::green_circle::green_circle::white_circle:
:green_circle::green_circle::green_circle::white_circle::white_circle::white_circle:
:green_circle::green_circle::green_circle::white_circle::white_circle:
:green_circle::green_circle::green_circle::white_circle::white_circle:
:green_circle::green_circle::green_circle::white_circle::white_circle:
:green_circle::green_circle::green_circle::white_circle::yellow_circle:
:green_circle::green_circle::green_circle::green_circle::white_circle:
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:green_circle::green_circle::green_circle::green_circle::white_circle:
:green_circle::green_circle::green_circle::green_circle::green_circle:

As you can see, I had no idea how to continue. Although the shapes seem natural.

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This is pretty cool :slight_smile:

Josekle #4 - Emojis and a mini comment

Josekle #4
:green_circle::white_circle::purple_circle::purple_circle::purple_circle::white_circle::white_circle::white_circle::white_circle::white_circle::purple_circle::white_circle:
:green_circle::green_circle::green_circle::green_circle::green_circle::green_circle::green_circle::green_circle::green_circle::green_circle::green_circle::green_circle::green_circle:

I got super lucky where my first guess gave me a good idea for the second one with the hints :slight_smile:

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Today #4 was the first time I got it quickly. I was very terrible the other days :stuck_out_tongue: I think the hints have gotten better though, easier to utilise when they’re on the board and in the tree themselves, but I do also like the summary appearing below the board with the β€œtoo long!” type comments etc :slight_smile:

I do have an idea for a strategy that I might test tomorrow.

I do also wonder if someone only knows very few joseki, would it be a fun puzzle or very difficult.

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I’m someone who knows very few joseki, and this one was pretty easy for me. First one I actually solved :grinning:

Not sure about β€œfun” yet though. It looks like we lost the hints on the board for empty intersections; without those it seems like it will be more tedious, since you have to refer back to your guesses to see them. However I only got two purples this time, so there wasn’t much tedium to overcome.

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Josekle #4
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I got it very wrong from the start, and didn’t know purple means there is stone there with any color. However, once I knew what it meant, and saw the final shape, I immediately know what joseki it is by treating it like one color Go.

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subtle flex…

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Josekle #4

:purple_circle::purple_circle::purple_circle::purple_circle::purple_circle::white_circle::white_circle::purple_circle::white_circle::purple_circle::white_circle::white_circle::white_circle::white_circle::white_circle::purple_circle:
:green_circle::green_circle::green_circle::green_circle::purple_circle::purple_circle::purple_circle::purple_circle::white_circle::white_circle::purple_circle::white_circle::green_circle::white_circle::purple_circle::white_circle::purple_circle:
:green_circle::green_circle::green_circle::green_circle::green_circle::green_circle::green_circle::green_circle::green_circle::green_circle::green_circle::green_circle::green_circle:

Got super lucky on move 13 being correct.

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I think it would be cool to see this baked into OGS, but I have no idea how to do that. I really have no idea what I’m doing when it comes to web development. Somehow I learned enough to put together BesoGo, but literally just barely.

Josekle #5

:green_circle::white_circle::green_circle::white_circle:
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:green_circle::green_circle::green_circle:
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Experimental responsive, fill-screen mode available here: https://yewang.github.io/josekle/fill.html

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V. Nice :ok_hand:

Josekle #5

:white_circle::white_circle::purple_circle::purple_circle::white_circle::white_circle::white_circle::white_circle::white_circle::white_circle::white_circle::white_circle::white_circle::white_circle::white_circle:
:green_circle::white_circle::white_circle::purple_circle::purple_circle::white_circle::white_circle::purple_circle:
:green_circle::green_circle::green_circle::green_circle:

Oh and the nice share format for the forums :smiley:

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Josekle #5

:white_circle::white_circle::purple_circle::purple_circle::white_circle::white_circle::white_circle::white_circle::white_circle::white_circle::white_circle:
:green_circle::white_circle::white_circle::purple_circle::purple_circle::white_circle::white_circle::purple_circle:
:green_circle::green_circle::green_circle::green_circle::white_circle:

I’d be down to try, I don’t have experience with React, but I have web development experience in general.

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Hehe i lost myself in that pb5 until i understood that purple is green (and reverse) :joy::cry:
Will give a try again.

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Josekle #5

:green_circle::white_circle::green_circle::white_circle::white_circle::white_circle:
:green_circle::green_circle::green_circle::green_circle::white_circle:

Not sure if this was discussed earlier, but isn’t it the case right now that you should use a super long joseki for your first guess, to get as much information as possible?

I wonder if restricting guesses to joseki(prefixes) no longer than the solution would make the optimal strategy more interesting.

Not that it’s a big issue currently, having to learn a good long starting joseki is not that different from picking your first wordle word based on letter frequency. But if it turns out to usually be optimal to guess the same two or three long and β€œdense” joseki first, and then treat it like one-color go, that would be a bit boring (although initially finding those joseki is an interesting challenge!).

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