Keeping up with young pros

Because I didn’t want to call this thread “following kids”.

I thought it’d be nice to have a place to discuss how young professionals – as a guideline, U25 (U30 for women) and < 7p (aka Shinjin O rules) – are doing.

Some of the more prominent examples:


Apparently Fukuoka is born in dec 2005 so is 15 years old.

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Tang Jiawen (唐嘉雯) is doing well.

She’s reached 4p since qualifying in (probably) 2017, and this year she beat Rui Naiwei in the Go Seigen Cup.

Still quite obscure, though. She has a Go4Go profile with quite a lot of games, but no article on Chinese Wikipedia.

Hmm, I’m not sure how strong Rui is these days. She was born in 1963. I wouldn’t be surprised if she’s in the top ten or twenty players over 50, but who knows?

Then you should take a look at Discovery Cup (or Disukabari- Cup, haha): 第2回 ディスカバリー杯(Discovery CUP) | 棋戦 | 囲碁の日本棋院

Under 18, under 2p + insei.

It’s in preliminaries stage for now, first group already played out.

In the first group Tanaka Yuki is 3-0, and he has only 8 games in his personal record.

Probably we should watch for 河原裕院生, he’s on top of the insei list, that must mean something, right?

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Cheng Jiaye is doing well.

In three years he’s gone from a 1p to a 3p, entering the Chinese A League.

Last March he beat both Lian Xiao and Yang Dingxin, very strong 9ps.

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The strongest teens are Tu Xiaoyu and Wang Xinghao. They are probably future champions.

The youngest pro is 陈家瑞 (messed up his English name) so he is someone to look out for. Here is an article about him.

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He’s not exactly young any more by professional standards (born 1990) but I just updated the SL article of Han Wongkyu for the first time since 2010.

Han had a good decade (and a successful twenties), rising from 3p to 7p.

I bulked out Nyu Eiko’s SL article’s SL article.

She’s a 22 year old top (domestic) female player and Michael Redmond’s niece. She’ll probably win a big women’s title in the next few years.

Kosumi is probably playing in that Discovery Cup around now.

Oh, prudent Chinese are even relaying: 弈客围棋

Look at this one, 弈客围棋 insei 日野勝太 fights everything and kills.

Our boi 日野勝太 tried once again to fight everything but this time professional opponent squirmed out of every fight winning 弈客围棋

Looks like Kosumi won with a kill 弈客围棋

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Nice! I’m happy for her.

Also, I didn’t know Yike was a non-client server.


Gu Ruize (谷 瑞泽) is doing well.

He was born in 2000, qualified in '17 and made 3p in '19.

He beat Rui Naiwei in '19 and her husband Jujo this year, which is cool although both of them are getting a bit advanced in years (Rui is 57 and Jujo is a couple of years older).


Hou Jingzhe (侯 靖哲) is another 2000 birth and another 3p.


Fan Bingxu was promoted to 3p this year. 1999 birth.

Here’s twitter profile of one of the players from Discovery Cup

Looks like he played 2-1

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That’ll be Rafif Shidqi Fitrah, first Indonesian * professional, b. 2002.

(* a second-generation immigrant)

By the way, the absentee admins on Sensei’s are starting to annoy me.

A name change request was made for that page five days ago and nothing has been done. I like to contribute, but it irks me when the people with power to rename and delete pages don’t even do the absolute bare minimum when issues are brought up.

Discovery Cup bottom group is played today.

Ueno Risa won against Tsukada Chiharu 弈客围棋

Fukuoka Kotaru lost to an amateur 弈客围棋

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I whacked Chiharu out a quick SL article.

Woops, forgot to add her federation card, one sec. And done~


Han Zhuoran qualified at only 13 in 2018, but he hasn’t been promoted yet.


Li Xiaoxi was promoted to 2p at 15 years old this year.


Li Xinchen is 2p at 15 as well.

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Zhang Mingkang was promoted to 2p this year, at 17 (a fortnight or so off 18).

An above-average trajectory, I think. Good on him.

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Zhou Yuanjun is doing well, 4p at 22. He qualified young, 12 or 13.

He hasn’t been promoted since 2018, though.

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