it seems to me asking for a plain simple 7 day game with comments added after move is plain is just to hard to impliement and i appreciate all the input you have a done researching this but i will just drop the issues and not ask anymore for a teaching throught the forums it did start a good discussions about this discord thing but that another issue again thanks agin i will try to sekk out games another way maybe even another go site where a simple helpful game can be obtained—
This is your response to the effort @Feijoa and @PJTraill invested into their very well framed responses to your post (which, by the way, I personally perceived as a quite arrogant rant)?
You are at the beginning of learning this game. How can you believe to know what you need? And knowing it better than people who play and also teach this game for years.
The first thing you would need is an enormous dose of humility. A dose so large that it would be able to overcome your [fill in the blanks], putting you into a position where you finally would be able to listen and learn.
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“Two kinds of people never learn: The Shy and The Arrogant.”
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“Two kinds of people never learn: @dokbohm and the folks who post in his threads.”
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i guess i came across all wrong. iam not what you seem me to be – but then again thats what this site is about its learning how to play go i thought - iam not going to ask for help any more because due to you all’s thinking iam idiot or troll or something which iam not, just an old tired guy trying to pick this game up before the time runs out wanting to learn this game on my terms at least a little
just a person one on one in a game here on this site. that i respect no extras no voice things no extra sites to go to just here one on one game where the person shows me were iam going wrong move on move just like a real person does when playing in front of them but i don’r have any one near that i can have teach me that way — so again like i have said i will just try and find a lower k person( that just about includes everyone here ) that will take the time that i apreciate them giving to me and listen to their advice each move and then go from there.
It’s clear to me that this whole thread is a misnomer. You’re not looking for sage advice; you’re looking for a specific way to learn—“move-by-move” teaching. The problem is that a review of every move won’t be very helpful at this stage. Almost every move will have problems, and they won’t be fixable because no foundation for fixing them has been laid.
So we need to back up:
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Complete the site tutorial at https://online-go.com/learn-to-play-go or some other tutorial like https://www.learn-go.net
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Actually try to capture stones by placing your stones on the opposing stone’s liberties
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Actually try to surround territory with your stones (Go is a surrounding game; if you’re not trying to surround stones and surround territory, you’re not going to get started really)
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Actually finish your games and score them
The most important and hopeful thing in this thread was when you stopped resigning and actually finished a game, and wouldn’t you know it, @FritzS and @benjito immediately did exactly what you’re asking for. They took your finished game and gave you a one-on-one detailed breakdown. They showed you that you were actually winning, why the AI score was so different from the final score, where you should’ve played to seal your territory, and why you lost (you passed before your territory was secure).
This, right here, is the “move-by-move” teaching you want. All the frustration and impressions that you’re a “troll” seem to flow from collective efforts to get you to the point where this kind of review is possible.
We see you resigning games you’re winning and playing with self-created rules and conclude that you don’t yet understand the most basic goal (scoring territory). This explains most of the “sage advice” you’ve been rejecting—we’re trying to get you to learn the alphabet before you try to write sentences. We’re trying to offer the help you need before you can benefit from the help you want.
My advice then: stop asking for a new teaching game. Instead, complete the tutorial of your choice and then go play 3 to 5 more games on your own. Play them all the way to the end. Do not resign. Let the game be scored, even if you lose by 87 points. Then pick one of those finished games and post a link to it in this thread with the simple message:
Based on how others responded to your last finished game, I’m almost positive that you’ll get the exact one-on-one detailed help you’re looking for. You just need to show us you’re willing to meet us halfway by finishing your games.
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Don’t you want to add that he should actually think about his moves, rather than ultra-blitzing them at 1 second a move? There’s not much point in a teacher spending 5 minutes thinking and writing about a move when the student only spent 1 second on it. In fact I find it disrespectful of the teacher’s time.
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Yes, of course. Just didn’t want to belabor a point already made and acknowledged.
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@dokbohm You say, if I remember rightly, that you found the OGS tutorial completely unhelpful. Other people report difficulties too, but not such drastic ones. There is a lot of useful stuff there, which would help you, so I suggest you try again, and as soon as something does not make sense to you, post it here, and someone will explain.
Have you looked at baduk.club? It has a map and lists various people and clubs near Windsor, Ontario, but the clubs are are mostly in the USA, e.g. Detroit (3 miles away), Oakland, Ann Arbor, Brighton. If you have no problem with the USA, you should start by contacting one of those clubs. I am afraid the closest listed club in Canada is a good 100 miles away, Forest City Go Club in London; the closest listed player in Canada is Scott Aveling in Mount Brydges, just your side of London (no contact details 
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It is not a bad idea to set yourself a goal that is more achievable than winning a level game, but I think it makes more sense to set goals that you achieve by playing normally. That could be winning a game with a certain handicap, and the handicap could be either a number of stones (I would start at 5 on a 9x9 board) or a komi in your favour (I suggest you play Black with “negative komi” of 30 points on 9x9). For that you would have to make a custom game, and it might be difficult to get opponents, unless you played the computer. Alternatively, if you have trouble getting opponents like that, you could play normally, but have a personal target for the score: lose by no more than (say) 30 points.
You would need to adjust your focus a bit, to making some territory rather than avoiding being captured, but you would be playing proper Go!
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He’s playing significantly slower now (3-10s or so), so that’s a little better.
But @dokbohm this is the kind of thing I was trying to say you should NOT do
when I said
Your stones are so spread out that you will probably lose half of them. If you play them close together, I bet you can meet your goal every time. How about giving it a try?
After that I hope you will take everyone’s advice here and start playing normal go where the goal is controlling area, not saving stones.
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I mean I’d take black there.
If he lost the lower half it wouldn’t be too bad 
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I think the bigger problem is that he’s just trying to make a pretty shape. At least his opponent is putting thought into the game.
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Bear in mind that this was a 4-stone handicap!
He could be trying out various shapes to see which keep his stones alive (longest). That is not such a bad approach, at least if you analyse the results of your experiments and/or have a natural ability to acquire some intuition by repeatedly seeing the shapes develop.
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I’m in awe of your positive-thinking skills!
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ME TOO
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You need to understand why this move at F6 (in this game today)
was a total disaster. A move at E8 (marked A) would have made your group uncapturable by making what are called “two eyes”.
You would understand that if you had followed the course already linked above as far as lesson 1.3.
If you already understand that, then you need to consider the thought processes that allowed you to make such a disastrous move. You spent about 2 seconds on that move, which could be relevant!
That was an important condition!
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in hind sight you are completely correct i did not see that, which you presented to me was my downfall move. just doing the lesson you prescibed mind you after the fact just enforced how i don’t understand the concept the lesson doesn’t really show you how to see what i should have seen three moves before as coming down the pike so to speak so as i have said before the lesson here are on me anywyas useless they don’t show me how i should have seen that move or in this case lack of move coming three moves before - having said that thanks for the point out, mind you, and reference to the lesson which was maybe for others good to take in please check out my 13 x13 games as most of my 9x9 or just me waiting for a 13x13 game to start thats where i do my best thinking at least i hope so
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Just for your information.
The very basics were discussed months ago at length and repeatedly already.
LIke here:
Success was “limited” always.
Which concept do you not understand? I hope you did all the lessons from the beginning up to and including 1.3, lingering on / repeatedly coming back to anything that seemed unclear at first.
To learn to see these things you need to (a) practise on simple tests such as in that course, (b) watch out for the same shapes in your games, (c) in your games, practise thinking ahead, as I suggested before, by imagining what the board will look like with your move and, if possible, your opponent’s answer; that will take at least 10 seconds for most moves. After each unpleasant surprise, do not just type a swear word, but think if you can see a way you could have avoided it. It is not always easy, because Go is a long-term game, and the cause of a problem may be many moves before you notice it, but sometimes it should be obvious.
Once you have learnt what two eyes can look like, and started looking out for them, you could see that the move at A would make two eyes. How you should see it is by learning what eyes looks like, and practising making them in your games. You very often actually fill in your own eyes, which means you have not understood what eyes are for, or how you score points.
I still say you need to do the course, even though you say you think it is useless for you. We can help with any lessons that do not make sense to you. As soon as there is one you do not understand, ask about it here, with a screen shot. Also ask if you think you understand what a lesson says, but not what the point of it is.
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ok then i will try the lesson here over again – please review my 13 x13 games to see how iam doing in that format