Maybe 2024 will be better

@yebellz Jesus, that was… well… indescribable.
For those that don’t know it, here is the original (which a lot of people that do not listen to that music, learned from it being the official Need for Speed: Underground menu music, back in the day).

On the thing that I wanted to post, I am kind of annoyed on how all this “planned obsolesence” leads to tons of garbage and plastic waste. :confused:

I didn’t know that and I kept wondering why my “enclosed” lamps were failing so fast. Now that I do know it, I’ll get some proper ones.

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This is interesting. I can’t say I ever noticed since I don’t have those kinds of fittings. But that doesn’t seem to be

More like a design flaw or deceitful marketing. Those bulbs become waste due to actually being broken, not because they work fine but are intentionally prevented from being used somehow (e.g. my old telly that got “updated” to death by the new software being forced but the hardware not being compatible despite working perfectly well with the old software).

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If you intentionally build something so that it acutally breaks early, that’s also planned obsolescence in my opinion.

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That is the original definition of the term.

This! :saluting_face:
Especially combined with the following:

I would agree with you if the sellers of those lamps asked you “is the lamp going to be enclosed or not?” and then the customer was informed of the difference.
As it is, they do not work fine, at all because the majority of the lightbulbs used here were designed to be enclosed (and the electrical shops know it, because they sell the lamp-holders).

In my house there are only two lights that are not enclosed and I finally have the explanation why those two lamps seem to be going strong for more than a decade, while all the others would burn out, sometimes even after 2 months.

I used to attribute that to the old tech and bad design of the lamp-holders (they were designed and installed almost 35 years ago when there were no LED light bulbs), but now I understand that it is the heat that was the real issue, combined with low-quality LED lamps. If I buy the proper lamps, they will probably last as much as the non-enclosed counterparts.

So, they are selling us lamps that, unbeknownst to us, are not fit to do the work that we want them to, ergo they burn out fast, they are turned into plastic waste and we have to buy new lamps all the time.

They win money and the world fills with garbage faster.

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Ok so maybe this is a country/regional/market difference. I have precisely zero enclosed light fittings. My experience is that traditional light fittings never used to be enclosed either due to heat of incandescent bulbs.

This is where I see the failing, so a marketing problem rather than planned obsolescence.

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Yes, I am not saying that the companies made the bulbs burn out faster.
I am saying that the resellers here hide the real specs of the bulbs they are selling, thus creating a case of planned obsolesence, for their own gain, when they only stock their shops with cheaper lamps that cannot take the heat.

The factories make good lamps for all temperatures and cheaper lamps for smaller temperatures, no problem there.

Our stores here buy the cheap lamps and sell them to us, as “long-lasting LED”, even though they know that we will be back within the year to buy new ones.
So, even though the planned obsolesense is not by the factory design, it still exists practically by they way those are sold here (and I assume elsewhere too, since that video was not made by a Greek YouTuber).

Spot lights or massive enclosed lightholders were all the rage once, here. They are still very heavily used. I like them myself, I am not going to lie :slight_smile:

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LOLOLOL:

Mr Seager said he planned to buy more Mars bars with the £2

Also LOL from there:

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“Dull Men’s club”

If you actually go there, it is actually a very interesting place, which was to be expected and since it was expected that makes that obvious expectation very dull. :stuck_out_tongue:

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So… 2024 still has almost a month’s time …

And did we, at all, define better than WHAT? 2023? All the time before 2024?

If I were to propose a name for the 2025 thread, it would be:

Spinning Wheel

Note the first text line.

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Make 2025 Great Again

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The first thing that comes to my mind is “2025, déjà vu?”

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Shame it’s not 2022, the rhyme would have been golden.

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duck and cover! Incoming discussion about whether or not “vu” rhymes with “two”!

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Thanks for clearing that up!
I didn’t understand what could possibly rhyme in the suggestions made. For me, “vu” and “two” would be pronounced as [vy] and [tʰu̟:]/[tu̟:] respectively, so no rhyme.
I hadn’t thought of the fact that many native English speakers pronounce “vu” as [vu̟:] (as they would pronounce French “vous”, which French speakers pronounce as [vu], I think).

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Sometimes I really love German, it would be so easy:

“wü” :smile:

And “two” would be “tu”.

:stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye:

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Similarly, Thatcher rhymes with réverbère (as well as frère, guerre, vulgaire,…)

Do not click if you are from UK

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JH_8Mnhvz6M

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I’d pronounce it as “tüu” in German

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What are your words of the year?

2025 brain rot…

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