not a big thing but i won a game

I just won a game where the other person did not just give up or d/c’d the game. I think I felt good about the win, too, though my strategy started in one place and ended in a completely different way-- my god, there are people that play worse than me i can’t believe that,t but it happened-- --so I take it i guess, on to another night

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Congratulations on your genuine victory!

If you understand why you won this game, then you’ve truly improved.

It comes down to one specific strategy - the one I tried to share with you a while ago: point 5 in that post.

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This starts to look like a go game, well done!

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yea!!! but understanding what I did is the problem. I just followed a defence plan till I realized my opponent did not see what I was doing — any player of skill would have seen what I was doing and stopped me cold - maybe I think upon reflection here---- I think he might have thrown the game – it was a little too easy, me thinks

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Congratulations, that is great news!

I really hope this encourages you to try another few games where you actually try to win from the outset.

You got off to a good start by just defending territory while they captured one stone in the centre (2 points + some influence on the rest of the board) while you took all four corner. In the long run you need to do more than just defend, but it is a decent start.

Your stones are much more efficient: look how they enclose fair-sized chunks, while theirs only enclose single points. If you count up their territory (with the white marks) it comes to just 16 points. Now count the first 16 marks in some part of your territory, and see how it is only a small part of it. For example, on the left it is columns A–C, rows 1–8. On the right it is columns K–N.

I do not think so, not after looking at a couple of their other games, where they tried a very similar strategy.

This is obviously a very new player, who is just finding their feet, and has not yet really got a feel for what the game is about, namely control of the majority of the board. The only way you were lucky was that their strategy was very unprofitable. You saw your chance and took it — an important skill at any level!

There are indeed!

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Good job! Well done. :slight_smile:

If you want another suggestion, at this point of the game you played moves A to D afterwards:

Those are not really needed or, to be exact, not all of those corners need any other moves to be yours.

a) Move A is not needed at all since you have the enclosure at D3 and C5
b) Move B is suboptimal. Any attack at that corner would have a hard time surviving, but if you want to make it 100% yours then the marked C11 is better or C10 or C11 to have better synergy with your other stones.

Why is that move suboptimal though? Do you recall that link that I provided you yesterday with the 7 connections/relations between your stones? D10 and B12 are not a shape that is included there because the connection can be cut by playing at C11.

c) This is similar to A, you could have played L9 and gotten more points and the corner.
d) This is similar to B, you could have played L3, L6 or H3 (those two are the same on this board).

Good luck and have fun on the next game as well.

Whew!!! And just when I thought, but I was wrong i guess I was on the right path of controlling the corners — hummmm so confusing??? but iam sure you are right - just where to go from here

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@JethOrensin is right that you could have strengthened the corners more efficiently, but I dont think you should worry about that for now.

I’d rather point you to this proverb: Even a moron connects against a peep at Sensei's Library

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Not really. If you look at it again you will see that all the proposed moves are either a knight’s move or a diagonal extension (both are in the 7 standard connection moves/haengma), while moves B and D, are not.

A and C are knight’s moves, but they “expand inwards” taking less points than the knight’s move that expands towards the side.

Use your imagination, which is better?

This?

Or this?

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@dokbohm, I see you have won another game. Are you developing a habit? Congratulations anyway!

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ha ha ha ha ha!!! just luck thats all

(Fair warning: @dokbohm did not actually quote my post)

Really?? You just won two more and got promoted from 69 kyu to 58 :astonished_face: What is the world coming to? Have they switched your medication to something more Go-friendly? That would be good news! Admittedly one of those games was with a 9-stone handicap, but that was also against a 16 kyu, so that makes you look like 25 kyu! It is getting hard not to admit that you have picked up some effective tactics.

That 9-stone game

Actually that 9-stone game was quite interesting: if you look at the score graph you see your initial advantage getting steadily eroded until White is considerably ahead, having secured territory in the SE and neutralised your advantagein the NW. But then they are too concerned to kill your stuff in the S, and luckily for you, that lets you have several moves to strengthen your position in the N until it is both vast and impregnable.

Moreover you lost a lot of stones, but still won: you sensibly said you would not resign until your opponent was 80 points ahead. That is a better rule than resigning as soon as they capture n stones.

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yes ia agree 80 points ahead or 100 points ahead bepending on the game format is much better that the scale i used before – i will stick to that from now on — as far a my k getting lower - i don’t see that – iam still in the mid 60’s what it saids in my looking but thanks for making feel better at least for a little while

Well that is strange! Now I see the numbers you were talking about:


Either OGS ranking did something really weird or I must have been half-blind. But progress is progress!

That was on my phone. But now, looking on my laptop I see the 58 again:

… and I realise I had a 19×19 filter on my phone, like this:


which excluded the last 2 games — simple! I suppose I was blind in terms of not looking at the filter.

So you really did hit 58 kyu.

all is good - a win is a win and for me the needle moved a little how ever small an amount

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I updated my previous post: you did hit 58.

well after tonight many losses in row i will be back at 69k real soon