I played a game with a supporter the other day and he made a mistake. He sent a message saying ‘u just lucky’ because he was higher ranked than me. (10 while I was 12)
After which I made a mistake and he said ‘guess not’. Lastly I just saw that there were moves to make because if he made a mistake he would die (and I was quite desperate to try since I was losing) so I tried but he said and I quote ’ you are wasting my time with useless moves’ and ‘I will report you’. Which he did. I tried reporting him for being toxic and wanted to save a photo of the chat as evidence but when I went back to it, the chat was empty. See the screenshot.
I tried reporting him for being toxic either ways but today, I was notified about his report and was given a warning. This is just infuriating because he gets away for being rude despite being the one who was showing unsportsmanlike behavior.
I hope OGS developers can do something about this.
Perhaps the chat is empty because he blocked you. You should be able to read the chat in an incognito tab/window.
About this:
Do you think there were reasonable chances that a 10k would make the mistakes you expected? Or did your moves have an obvious refutation?
Personal opinion, I don’t really see his comments as that severe? Bad sportsmanship, yes, but more on the level of “gg ez” than “kys”. And to be fair, you didn’t stall a ton, so maybe one could argue it all evens out, but stalling is a lot more objective to see was inappropriate
Also, he did try to engage you in productive dialogue regarding the situation (though flipping through the game, it seemed like he accused you of stalling well before I would consider it stalling, but eventually it turned into real stalling), but you just ignored it (unless your comments got deleted?), which I can imagine would be frustrating in his shoes
As far as I know, if someone wants to take the game to scoring, and the borders are still open, they can keep playing until the board is settled. As long as they are not making obviously stalling moves.
Also, rudeness seems to have been long before the perceived stalling.
However, I don’t think the supporter status is relevant here.
Yes, and I acknowledge that the other person here accused the OP of stalling before I think it was appropriate to do so, but later on it turned into clear stalling
Yeah, though the more I read his 2 rude comments, “you lucky” and “or nooot”, (both verbatim and in full), the more I’m unsure how confident we can be in properly interpreting how he meant such short comments
Yeah, I assume the implication is that the OP thinks that may be getting the other person preferential treatment, and while that’s possible on some level, I think the mods try to ignore supporter status when dealing with things, so if there’s any bias, it’s likely small
Examples of stalling moves:
Do you think a 10k might not notice it’s a self-atari?
Do you think a 10k might not realize that Black can’t escape?
Just for the sake of the argument, I’m sure we can find examples of 10k or higher who fumbled similar moves. You can’t blame someone for trying, especially under time limits where their opponent might judge incorrectly. If I see correctly, it happened at least twice earlier in the game, and even I could have spot those mistakes (on a good day).
I can’t judge positions that well, but if someone frustrates you when you’re aren’t doing anything wrong, into doing something wrong, sometimes the blame is not one side only, such as to require reprimanding.
Yes, but this was a correspondence game
Yes I think it’s fine to try one trick before resigning. But playing several trick moves with obvious refutations is what is called stalling. This is different from
In the situation you describe, you play normal endgame moves, not trick moves that almost obviously don’t work.
I didn’t go through the whole game, but iirc the comments were made when B was securing upper right corner.
Imho it was too early to start accusing someone for stalling.
Maybe afterwards it went really downhill, I don’t know.
(and they apparently do have a history of being somewhat rude in chat, although I can’t check much on my phone)
Actually the comment “you are wasting my time…” started at this move 224
But let’s say Black tried a trick move, why not. However the game continued until move 287, i.e. 63 moves later, after White had passed 5 times, which is really a lot.
Well, if instead of closing borders they were trying anything under the sun, I do see your point.
I remember game where territory of opponent had weaknesses that most likely impossible to attack, but there were so many, so I understood that at least 1 had chance to work
so I tried anyway, eventually opponent started to pass, I finally passed too to not annoy them too much.
And then scoring mode gone crazy. Territories were sealed, but I had to choose status of points inside group manually.
turns out Kata Lord Himself was still not sure about status of stones
estimate gives
while score
with chances graph like that in the end:
now I regret that I passed, I had to try to be more rude
As eloquently said in The Wire: “it’s all in the game”. I consider the waisting-my-time-remark rude. You have invited somebody / anybody to a game or you accepted an invitation to play a game. Either way, you play the whole game. If you have the feeling that you are really waisting your time, you resign. Problem solved. Or you sit the game out and discuss the supposedly futile strategy after the game has finished.
And the just-lucky-remark? Let’s look at it the other way: maybe someone felt stupid?
This issue has been handled via reports on the main site.
It’s not appropriate to make such accusations publicly.