Opening game review

[Otherpeter]

I have just finished this game (I won by resignation, and I’m black)

Otherpeter vs. It.cold

Please, roast me. I need to know when I did small moves, when I overplayed and when did I responded instead of doing a logical tenuki. Also if I failed to respond to clear threads. Please, keep it simple, as I’m still quite a beginner, thank you.
After the game I felt like I had a slight advantage in the opening, but during the game I failed to notice, and probably would have been unable to exploit it.

Thank you in advance for your time!

[Uberdude]

Otherpeter vs. It.cold is a bonkers tenuki. When you have 2 groups adjacent like that in a pushing battle, whoever gets to hane at the head gets a huge advantage. So you should want to e11, or if you are scared of the cut then maybe e10 is ok too, but you certainly can’t let white hane at e10 (which they should have done for 14).

[Otherpeter]

I can clearly see your point (I recognise it from Marks5000 Tactis tutor, or Stone development for begginers, not sure which one). But won’t that mean I will be creating a baseless group? It is still hard for me to know when I should not aim for a base…

[jlt]

1. Defend your weak groups, for instance like this.

2. Connect your weak stones.

3. A bamboo joint is often better than an empty triangle.

[Otherpeter]

I never was aware that 2 was a way of conecting. It always seamed to me like a shape leaving too many cutting points.
Ty for your great advices. My mistakes became painfuly clear when you point at them. Now let’s try to fix them in real game.

[Uberdude]

That’s a good question, and glad to see your tenuki was for a sensible, albeit misevaluated, reason. I added some variations to your game to explain.

[jlt]

@Otherpeter

I never was aware that 2 was a way of connecting.

You are right, you need to protect one of the connecting points. If you protect the one on the right, your opponent can’t cut on the other, since the cutting stone can be caught in a ladder:

If you protect the one on the left, your opponent can cut on the other, but then you’ll sacrifice the single stone and end up with a strong shape facing the empty center, so your group won’t be attacked easily.

[Otherpeter]

Ty. That is very clarifiying. I knew that there was a proverb “Never cut a one space jump”. But I was not aware of the proper way of defendig, thus losing many theorically advantageous enchanges.

[Otherpeter]

Ty for your clear explanations. I can notice that sometimes I realize that some positions are theoretically good for me, but I still can’t play them out, and end up loosing in the long game. I guess I need to experience more games and more defeats to slowly grasp the concepts.
I was told that I tended to respond too much and to overplay, but I guess that I still need to learn when something is urgent and when it is just a small move. But it is a fun ride, and certainly the game seems more beautifull the more you learn about it. Many thanks for your coments.

[rtayek]

i reviews your game. i have poor vision and i reviewed it for white (
i will do a review from bkacks point of view.

this connentary is for whte.
you like to contact single stones in the opening. this is usually a mistake as it makes the sones stronger. the exception to this is: 44 attach kick

Most of the time, it is assumed that when the diagonal attachment of is played, there should be a pincering Black stone at or in the vicinity to prevent White from getting a base. Note that the purpose of the diagonal attachment of is twofold: to make White heavy and to prevent the slide to g, and not an attacking move in itself (the attacking move is , see also attack from a distance). For a discussion when there is no pincer, see 4-4 point diagonal attachment, one-space jump (without pincer).

In this joseki, the one-space jump at is neccessary for strenghtening the corner, so that does not simply become a weak player’s diagonal. In other words, should not tenuki or play at a. See 4-4 point diagonal attachment, pincer (without one-space jump) for more discussion.

Also, the diagonal attachment of and the one-space jump of doesn’t protect the corner from an invasion. In fact, after the White stones have become strong, an invasion at 3-3 can be expected. and give some extra protection but no full security. See 4-4 point diagonal attachment joseki, 3-3 invasion for more.

[Otherpeter]

Ty very much. I’m sorry you had to do double work, but it was certainly very educational for me, including the coments to white’s play. Now I feel like if my opening was weaker than white’s though.

[rtayek3]

np. if you have skype or discord or livein the usa, i can give you a lesson.

thanks

[Otherpeter]

I live in Europe (GMT+2), which could be a problem. But I do have Discord, and it would be my pleasure to have a teaching game (or any other kind of lesson you had in mind) if we manage to schedule it. Thank you for the offer!

[rtayek3]

i am in los angeles which i think is -7, so looks you are 9 hours ahead of me (i think). i am usually up by noon which is 9 pm your time, so if you are up at 9p m we could try that.

i am rtayek on discord so please send me a request.

thanks

[rtayek3]

i am up for a lesson now. i am rtayek on discord.