I mean the diagram i responded to (the diagram about the not so big intrusion after a tenuki on c18).
Oh you mean this one:
There is also a ko from that position:
White can’t play 2 at 3, because then there is this snap-back:
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If white try avoid by step back black still has good reduction
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If black plays 2 (F17) in that variation, I expect white responds at 4 (E17). So then the question is if a black forcing move at G18 is enough to live.
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Yes that was my idea 
. Can be worthless, just inspired from 44 joseki where you shouldn’t atari to keep aji…
In this case I think it’s better for black to play G18 directly (ko), instead of F17 first.
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So black could exchange first K17 for M17 then C18 wouldn’t be that gote?
Ok, K17 is a good ko threat to keep too.
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Maybe not. But if black plays both of those exchanges now, there may not be enough sufficiently big ko threats left to fight the B8 Ko?
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But there is also the question if black should even play a ko in the lower left with B8. I saw variations posted where black reduces it with B7 instead. Maybe it’s good enough for black to play calmly with C18 and B7 (if white responds to C18).
But then I would still be bothered by white’s greedy response to L16. Was black L16 really an overplay? Or was white M13 an overplay?
If black plays C18 now, it feels like admitting that L16 was an overplay.
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I love how our next vote will have like 16 choices
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Really ? I don’t think so. Most debates are about 3 moves C18 B7 and B8. Well Let’s poll tonight (like in 12hrs) unless more debates come in.
I can add K17 F12 ; anything more?
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Bump for the busy time of OGS.
I wonder if we finally finish this game, we should sent it to a pro for reviewing and see if the collective intelligence of players really add up to 9p 
(or just upper bound by the strongest player)
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I hope first enough players stay interested to the end but yes sure review will be Interesting. I already think It’s nice to see different approach and that sometimes what sounds obvious for me is not at all shared like that.
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Quite often the stronger players don’t agree with their votes, and they don’t always win the majority vote. Different playing styles among the participants may play a role here.
But each move seems to be considered quite seriously by many voters and the collective wisdom of the participants seems to work pretty wel to avoid obvious blunders.
My feeling is that the overall quality of the game is at least somewhere around strong kyu to lower dan.
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If us dan players aren’t participating, would the rest still come up with moves like complicated ko, or probe move like g13, etc.?
Would the rest collectively choose very different and wild options, or just fewer but safer options?
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I expect that with a mix of different playing styles in voters, it is a bit difficult to get a majority for risky and complicated lines of play.
Maybe a bit like a plans developed by a commission, where the safer, more conservative plan gets majority support more easily than an ambitious, more risky plan. To get commission support for the latter, you would usually need very convincing arguments and data to remove doubts and secure majority support from the commission.
If the commission consults some experts to explore more ambitious options, but the experts don’t agree on the details, so it remains inconclusive, the commission may still prefer the more conservative plan.
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Black C18 wins the poll!
Time for all of us to give your suggestion, newcomers of any rank very welcome to join!
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Pretty funny outcome. C18 is what I would have played in my own game, but I sat out since the consensus seemed to be for the lower left side, which was too complicated for me to choose.
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