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’Go is much more complicated than chess.’ - Magnus Carlsen
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Welcome to the forums, Moognus.
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thx
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I’m often amazed at how much general knowledge Joe Rogan has. To just know that what was so surprising about Alpha GO was the new moves it came up with.. People in the GO community know, but this guy is a comedian/MMA announcer. I don’0t want to open the can of worms around his politics or “alternative theories”. But the guy is smarter than he looks, or at least very curious about a wide range of subjects.
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I’m not sure that really says anything about how smart he is. There was a fair bit in the news about it when it came out, he’s probably just reciting something he saw in an article or in a video.
I saw him talking to Mangus a while ago, maybe it was from this episode, about how strong chess engines were. He was asking Mangus if he could defeat the strongest chess engine, Mangus was like no chance, and Joe was like well what if you trained really hard. Joe did not actually seem to understand just how strong the engines are.
I also saw a conversation he had with a philosopher back in the day (maybe Nick Bostorom) and I distinctly remember one part being infuriating. Joe had a great difficulty understanding something Bostrom said, and from memory it was because Joe couldn’t get his head around what “if and only if” meant.
Intelligent isn’t a word I’d use to describe him. Affable, maybe. Also gullible. I’ve heard others make similar statements about how Joe is smarter than you’d think, but I’ve never really seen anything to substantiate the claim.
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What else was it going to be? The colour of its shirt? The songs it sang whilst playing? Its preference for milk chocolate over dark?
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Well I guess it could have played the known josekis/fuseki with brutal efficiency. So basically no change to contemporary style of playing, but simply playing like the flawless human. My understanding is that Alpha GO and Leela Zero have changed our understanding of Fuseki.
People in the news/pundit media often seem smarter than they are because they are exposed to a wide variety of information and sometimes do some prep (as before an interview). In other words, their knowledge is wide but mostly superficial. Because they are in the word business, they typically know how to enhance their pose of authority. The effect seems weaker today than when I was young, because the advent of the internet has given many more people a wide but superficial knowledge of many subjects. The real danger in all this is that many people in the media business, over time, begin to believe in their own imposture of intelligence and wisdom.
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I mean I guess it could’ve used “known tactics” very precisely, so that was a little mean. But it also made me laugh out loud so thanks for that 