“I guess I’ll keep responding so long as you continue to have an open mind.”
“I don’t kniow who these practitioners are. I have never heard of anyone who says such a silly thing.”
Fair enough. Hearsay on my part.
“You keep focusing on how the list of mantras was leaked. It doesn’t actually matter, since the mantra is only a meaningless sound.”
Which was my point exactly.
“There is no comparison with LSD and other psychedelics–they give flashy experiences but do not eliminate stored stresses. So their impact on life is minimal.”
I have to disagree with this completely based on my own experience and reading about the experiences of many others.
“In fact, they cause their own stresses that can make life more difficult. This is seen most clearly in the abuse of “hard” drugs such as alcohol and cocaine, which leads to so much suffering that there are many medical and other organizations devoted to helping drug abusers get clean.”
You’re throwing all drugs in the same basket here. In response to that, I could say the same things you’ve said to me. (“So you make up a very simplistic view of the subject being discussed and make claims cxinsistent with that view. It makes you automatically right, even in a discussion with someone having many years of experience in the topic of discussion. It is what willful 2-year-olds do to win arguments. You are better than this!”) Psychedelics have little to nothing in common with drugs like alcohol and cocaine. Just because those lead to a lot of suffering when abused doesn’t mean that the same would hold true for psychedelics, which are seldom abused in the first place except maybe by first-time users who don’t know what the experience holds in store for them. I’ve experienced people having bad experiences on psychedelics (“bad trips”) first-hand, but all of them were eventually grateful for the experience and said that they still learned something from it.
“What you are missing is that transcending is not thinking. In fact, it is a process in which thinking becomes more abstract and eventually stops entirely.”
I don’t know when I would have said something that suggested otherwise.
“That is the kind of contradiction that arises when we allow our ego to lead us about, as you have been doing. […] The real problem is that you want to feel like you are in control.”
You’re making all kinds of assumptions about me. I’d appreciate if you didn’t.