i have noticed in the last three weeks most of my opponents that are 24k and up vary greatly in talent - as iam a losing player i see certain openings and strategries that even to my old simple minded eye seem to be really well put together and in say a 10 min 19x19 game they have me beginning for mercy now quite early in the game more so than say same games a couple of weeks ago-
i wonder if those players I play with have advanced techinques at least ones i seen in books and on utube etc that still have 24k rantings are they really 24k and up players—– but then maybe I’m just imagining it? i wonder what other 24k players have to say, do they notice a difference? Another thing is that most of these players use– go. terminalogy – of much lower numbered k playerrs and phrases that are used by better players when they are criticizing me for my agruabliy right mind you, bad play on my part it really not a big thing with me just a obersvation as i will keep to my standard play and keep pushing my limit of moves and lower stolen stones with each week – the only thing iam trying is teaching games where the helpful opponent ona 9x9 is trying to instruct me into the rules of go so maybe at some later future before iam dead get to the end of a go game and maybe win one
It is hard to say, because at your and their level ranks are hard to pin down accurately.
Firstly, the same player can easily vary greatly in effective strength from one game to another. This could be a matter of luck, soberness, wakefulness, deciding to try something different that happens to be better, copying moves they remember seeing someone else play.
Secondly, playing strength is composed of a variety of skills such as:
estimating which groups are strong or weak,
knowing proverbs that help in special cases,
recognising how to make good shape with your stones,
recognising bad shapes in your opponent’s stones,
staying alert for the chance to seal off a large area or kill a large group,
knowing standard sequences that work in certain situations,
playing the endgame to make the greatest possible profit,
realising how your opponent sees the game and what they intend to do,
and, most important, reading ahead to evaluate which plausible moves actually work.
Different players have different strengths, and if their strengths align with your weaknesses you may find that they seem to you much stronger than another player against whom they would actually win about half their games.
Finally, some may adapt their style to play you more than others do. So it really is hard to say, and the best thing is not to worry too much about their rank or your own, and just play plenty for fun and experience.
Also, people who know a lot of terminology are often those who have also put more effort into improving, or who use those concepts to understand the game better. But sometimes they are just people who enjoy learning the jargon or like the Asian vibe — and why not?
See the big uptick in their rating in just recently. After 2450 games they have finally broken through the 25k barrier, and this is due to “getting the hang of it” one could guess.
How this happens will be different for each person (kind of what PJ said) so what they look like to you will be different too, and it is not “fixed”, it is a point of change for them.
(Interestingly that person played a ton in Sept, and nearly broke through at the end of that! But it looks like they had a tilt / setback and started playing less for a while. Then in January this year they went hard at it again to achieve the recent result).
Another observation is that although you speak of “your experience with 24k players” as if there is lots of this to draw on, but they seem to be far in the minority of your opponents. So your sample size to draw conclusions from is not great.
both answers were great and yes to all questions mostly i play 24k on my quick games under 10 min etc but on my longer games iam getting lower kn players thats for sure 18k 16k etc etc so thanks as alwasy for the answers to my question which was throughly anwered as to the why of it
