What would happen if Magnus Carlsen seriously studied Go for a year?

But Bo Jackson did both Baseball and US Football, so I suggest we put our hopes in him! Bo knows Go!

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Is M. Carlsen the only player of chess ?

ā€œWhat would happen…?ā€ Chess players would be sad or happy, depending on their allegiance.

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Would the ones who like Carlsen be the ones happy, or the ones who don’t?

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My guess is that Carlsen fans would be sad because he would be less active in chess, and anti-Carlsen players would be happy for the same reason.

The fans of his rivals would be happy to see him gone and his fans would be happy because they would follow him and find go.

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It’s why Go is known as the game where everybody wins :slight_smile:

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That’s a happy thought. I can get on board with that.

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What makes this player so famous? His winning, the quality of his games or an attractive personality? Or something else? Is there anyone else very famous but that I missed in the news?

I think there must be a combination of personality and high level play. If he is not winning, then nobody would care, but also that he is showing up late/slamming tables etc. makes him interesting to follow even if you know nothing about chess.

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To me, this whole discussion sounds like ā€œHow many pancakes do you think Superman could eat in a minute if he tried to eat pancakes at superhuman speed?ā€

IMHO this is based on pure speculation and - while it might be a fun alternate-universe narrative kind of writing exercise - it seems like one could make up just about any story based on how much (or how little) SUPERHUMAN GENIUS one wants to ascribe to Carlsen…

I can’t believe you would bring this topic into the discussion without at least putting forth a guess!

  • <10 pancakes
  • 10-100 pancakes
  • 100-1000 pancakes
  • 1000-1M pancakes
  • There are no limits to the amount of pancakes Superman can consume
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It depends on whether they are seasoned with kryptonite.

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I have two words for all you ā€œno limitā€ folks - Planck Time

Meaning, it’s impossible for Superman to take less than a unit of Planck Time to eat a pancake, meaning that the amount of time within one minute is finite, so there would have to be some sub-infinite number of pancakes he could eat in that interval

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The problem is, there’s no ā€œlarger than 1Mā€ option, so we’re all forced to answer the next closest thing, which is no limit

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Once I started thinking about the pancake question in terms of Planck time, that took me down a whole other rabbit hole. Because there’s no reason that Superman would have to eat these pancakes one-at-a-time like you or I would. Before putting the pancakes into his mouth, he could squash a huge stack of them with his hands, meaning he would fit a much larger number of pancakes in his mouth per time interval. There’s a limit to how wide Superman’s arms could stretch, but he could theoretically be flattening stacks of pancakes with one arm and putting them in his mouth with the other…

The fascinating thing about Superman’s strength - since it’s imaginary and all - is that it’s seemingly infinite. Even when something seems difficult for him - because you do see Superman straining at times - he can always just get MORE angry or MORE determined, and suddenly he just has enough strength. So yeah, he could squash pancakes down to the tiniest scales - careful not to cause fusion because the nuclei of the atoms were getting too close together, but still greatly increasing the volume of pancakes he could eat even in the smallest time increment.

This got me thinking, what would be the actual limiting factor? It took me a while, but I settled on the volume of Superman’s stomach.

Now, this is all based on the assumption that Superman isn’t somehow flexing his digestive system and excreting the entire volume of pancakes immediately after eating them - ejecting the resulting mass out of his anus at near-relativistic speeds like a jet of particles shooting out of a supermassive black hole

So, assuming that the pancakes STAY in his stomach for the minute in which he’s trying to consume them, then there is a certain maximum mass that his stomach volume could reach before he ran into enough serious problems with General Relativity to effectively halt the experiment.

This is pretty easy to figure out. The volume of the average adult stomach is between 1 and 1.5 liters. According to this handy calculator, the radius of a 1.5-liter volume sphere is about 7.102cm.

According to this handy Schwarzschild Radius Calculator a black hole with a radius of 7.102cm would contain a mass of 4.78 x10^25 kg, or about 8 x the mass of the Earth (to be fair, that’s a lot of pancakes).

Since your average pancake weighs about 40 grams, that means that once Superman ate MORE than 119.5 x10^25 pancakes, the compacted mass in his stomach would exceed the limits of space-time in that region, causing his stomach to become a black hole. I’m not sure how unlimited Superman’s power might be, but I don’t think he could escape a black hole that formed right in his center, since not even light can escape, and the laws of physics basically break down. So yeah, I’m going with ~ 1,195,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 pancakes

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This is very reminiscent of Larry Niven’s famous R-rated essay, ā€œMan of Steel, Woman of Kleenex,ā€ in which he hypothesized that Superman’s ejaculation (faster than a speeding bullet) would kill Lois Lane. This was reprinted in Niven’s 1971 collection All the Myriad Ways, which I read the year it was published.

This thread seems to have morphed into an off-topic record setter.

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someone please post this thread URL on reddit /r/chess
ā€œGo community starts hallucinating about Magnus playing Goā€

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