Is there a single bot which is beatable for a new player? I am extremely frustrated, out of curiosity I tried this game and I am about to quit it. I played 8 games against amaranthus and 3 games against amybot, and even playing as black with 20 handicap, I can’t beat this shi*. Is there a bot which is beatable for a new player or should I just throw this game out of the window and newer play this again?
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Hello,
have you ever gone through a tutorial for the game?
If not, I’d suggest doing that … a good start would be this tutorial.
Otherwise, have you tried playing Amaranthus on a 9x9 board with, say, 4 or 5 Handicap stones?
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Play with humans before giving up.
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Also try not swearing at bots, they might not care, but people who look at the games to offer you some hints might.
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uff 
I’ve been thinking about maybe downtuning amybot-beginner to 30k-ish and slotting in amybot-tpk at 20k-ish (where -beginner resides ATM).
But I wasn’t sure which ranks are actually relevant for new players, like what’s the rank of someone who’s learned the rules and has played 10-25 games?
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The first thing I’d do is make sure you’re placing handicap stones in a useful way.
If you have 20 to place
this is ok, you’ll most likely get the points on the right side, but then
these next line of stones don’t really give you any benefit.
Placing 20 stones like this
is almost the same as just 9 stones like this
once you get used to capturing stones.
If you do 20 stones like this
It should be very hard for the bots to beat you, unless you get yourself captured by filling in your territory, or you willingly give up stones.
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Maybe share a game with the forums, so that we can point out to you where and when there are better, more efficient moves?
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Unfortunately I think that’s a widely spread distribution.
It really depends on how quickly they understand capturing, and defending their territory.
Like you can lose games easily by not connecting a first line stone.
Similarly if a new player doesn’t figure out to play in the bigger empty spaces they’ll take too little territory.
Or if they think they can capture every stone, then they easily just give ponnukis to the opponent and lose every stone.
There’s many ways to lose as a beginner, and I would say that those are three big ways that even a 25-24kyu player could exploit and win 100% of the time.
The other thing is, if you’re self learning, only by playing a bot or the very minimal learn to play section of this site, then you might not pick up things as fast as if you played a few games with a human “teacher”, who might give tips, either online or in a Go club.
That can also lead to a spread of ranks in the other direction with only a handful of games.
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I would second this and also add https://www.learn-go.net/ 
I’m sure you’re going to improve quickly!
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Thank you to everyone that replied, it helped! (And don’t worry, I will try to not swear at the bots anymore :D)
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If you want to understand a bit better how is a game of go from beginning to end, I suggest to watch some strong players games. You can 
very quickly, search for finished ones it’s in their profile. (Strong,= dan players).
Don’t try understand what’s going on exactly, just watch the process.
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What does “Fing” mean?
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You sweet innocent summer child ~
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Short for
F#cking
also sometimes written as “effing”
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Can’t we just write “fucking”?
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We sure can - it’s more about being aware of community standards where some people are uncomfortable with public swearing (shrug emoji)
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There is this section of the FAQ
This is a public forum, and search engines index these discussions. Keep the language, links, and images safe for family and friends.
I wouldn’t necessarily police it too much personally unless it was getting out of hand.
In those cases it might be more like people arguing, insulting or doing some ad hominem attacks more than simple swearing.
Maybe thread titles could be an exception, since you’ll see them without entering and engaging with the discussion also.
On the main site, we do have profanity filters for example, so it would be keeping in line with that in a way.
It hasn’t seemed to come up too often as far as I can see.
I think if we really wanted to block swearing we could anyway, but we haven’t so…
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You could also imagine hiding profanity behind tags like
profanity
darn
or the more recent heck yeah.
That’s if one wanted to give people warnings but not completely censor it in some way, like they might do in a 90s PlayStation game
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Wow surprised that discourse doesn’t censor it!