Almost antique corner sequences

Just a small update: 55 years later, another small joseki dictionary is published with 3 volumes, 946 pages and 3600 diagrams.


Almost halfway the collection.
With a tempo of 20 joseki’s a day (5 months average) that would mean I will be finishing this project in May 2022.
I am also preparing an index so that you can find that special joseki faster.
Every joseki costs about 2 minutes to enter.


Yes. Finished the first book with 3000 diagrams.


From a projected 6 months to 6 days…

Montgomery Scott would be proud.

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Project concerns two books, finished the first book.
ETA is still May 2022.


Only about approximately 650 joesiki’s to go.
Expect it won’t be a problem to finish this in May this year, might even be earlier.


Wow, I just entered the last joseki of a series 6000. Project finished.
Two months earlier than I estimated.







Now just some last alterations and additions to the Manual and after that maybe some incidental maintenance.

Not going to do a project of this magnitude again.


Atorrante, if you have any strength left after this feat would you please share more about your experience in transcribing the diagrams. I wonder how well your understanding of shape and move order improved and how you have noticed this study impacting your gameplay.

Also, is there a good way to view the complete collection? And is there a way to disable the orange “hint”. If I click the “hint” button then the next move just changes from an orange box to a green box. Here is just one of the joseki I was browsing: Play Go at! | OGS.


Haha, not much strength left :smiley:

Don’t click ‘hint’, but click the orange box. The next move will appear. By doing so you will be guided through the joseki sequence.
There is for you (as far as I know) no way to disable the hint section.
For me it is possible to disable hint (manually one puzzle after another), but I am not going to that. The purpose was to show a joseki sequence and not having you guess what the next move is. These are not puzzles!

Transcribing puzzle is rather easy.

By transcribing the joseki’s I noticed that there are certain moves that keep coming back. Moves that look(ed) small to me, but that are essential. For example R16 in the joseki you were browsing.

Other things I learned:

  • the last move of a joseki is not to be forgotten.
  • don’t grow too attached to your stones, sacrifice for profit.

But to be honest at the moment the impact on my gameplay is negative. My rank dropped a bit. Knowing too much can be handicap. :frowning:

I expect however that in time I will improve. I haven’t been studying the josekis much.

Does this answer your questions?


Yes thank you. I asked because I studied joseki a bit (not much) despite people saying not to. Well, people say that it’s good to understand joseki but not to memorize it.

Anyway, I only reviewed maybe 50 joseki (~150 variations) and I started to notice certain patterns and importance of move order that was not yet natural to me. I wonder if I would be able to pick up on proper form better if I studied joseki again now.

And no need to edit the problems one by one. Thanks for your hard work already!

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