Also, the doctor with the thermometer above is in the UK and mentioned in the video (if I understood correctly) that schools may be closed in general, but children of medical stuff will keep going to school because their parents have to work through this.
Our government is urging people to stay inside, but everyone up and yeeted to the countryside and islands, which is stupid because:
-obviously they are spreading the virus to isolated areas which were probably spared.
-there have already been two villages quarantined.
-countryside and Greek Islands are really not the place to be in a medical emergency.
I made the mistake of visiting Twitter, and there’s people saying it’s an elaborate scheme for governments to practice crowd control, that China spread it so they can sell the antidote and boost their productivity and economy, that medical personnel are blowing a flu up to get funds. And those are a few. I stopped reading.
This is a question that people around the world need to consider carefully. For South Korea, it seems that widespread testing and greater application social distancing played a big role.
I agree that inadequate testing is a big problem. However, your post seems to insinuate that the more positive paths taken by South Korea and Japan are misleading. South Korea has the most expansive and thorough testing program in the world. The testing in places like Italy and USA are the ones that are falling woefully behind, and most likely the reality is that Europe and America are even worse off than the plot suggests.
A per capita graph captures the same doubling trend, but might be more meaningful for understanding the relative situation between case load and health system capacity (which is roughly proportional to population). Here is the per capita plot:
@yebellz, would it be possible to include Germany and Spain in those graphs? France, Portugal? Netherlands? actually all European states? And is enough known about Iran where, as I read, people are also dying like the flies already?
And I dare not hope that new Japanese Flu drug is not just hot air … but I wish!
I can’t say for sure about South Korea, but as for Japan this has got to be another reason: people actually do what the authorities tell them. There’s no “but there wasn’t a car in sight and it’s 3am and raining, so I thought I could walk through the red traffic light”, they actually stand there, waiting for 2 minutes for nothing at all. I’ve never seen something like that in the Netherlands.
Another thing might be that they are simply underreporting the actual number of infections, but that’s something that’s difficult to find out…
countryside and Greek Islands are really not the place to be in a medical emergency.
Those same folks will be the ones that will be on the news nagging about the government and demanding a helicopter be sent to save them or their relatives while the rest of us permanent residents will be like “we told you not to come here on an outbreak”
What part of “we do NOT have a hospital”, don’t these people get ?
I made the mistake of visiting Twitter, and there’s people saying it’s an elaborate scheme for governments to practice crowd control
And these are just the first days of “staying at home” … all those people at home with nothing to do are bound to produce some conspiracy theories that even world reknown fantasy writters will be jealous of their creativity
and most likely the reality is that Europe and America are even worse off than the plot suggests.
@yebellz I do know the exact number, but a few days ago it was reported that the tests here are being conducted selectively, so that we do not run out, so I guess what you are saying is not just a likelyhood but
almost certainty.
I woke up to the news that an earthquake hit western Greece (where my parents are). No victims only injured, thankfully, but it wasn’t mild. It will be more difficult to keep people inside I fear.
And I’m also very, very worried about Italy and Turkey right now. I’m basically hoping to see in the news they had some 4 R quakes and the tention is released in the areas.
How mortality (y axis) is related to tests done per million of inhabitants (x axis) in several countries.
Several factors combined can have influenced the differences:
The average age of the sampled population (Germany and Korea: 47 years; Italy: 66 years). If tests will be increased even further in Italy, it is expected that the current 8% should reduce considerably (including younger people).
Ability to insulate since the beginning positives w/o symptoms (Germany did better and earlier than Korea and Korea did much better than Italy).
Differences in the population age pyramid (Italian over-65: 26%; German over-65: 25%; Korean over-65: 14%) - however this doesn’t explain Germany numbers.
Familiar contagious: Italy, China, Japan have a larger number of families with different generations in the same home respect to Germany, Austria, UK. Cultural differences also in social distances may have impacts.
Caring ability: infected people in different countries receive different levels of assistance. Germany has the most advanced health system. Italy (also good) and Spain (don’t know) have their hospitals overwhelmed by the numbers. This means that mortality can increase at a later stage also in other countries when numbers become unmanageable with the same level of quality.
The full article in Spanish here:
Essentially, it seems to me that it is still not clear to the most.
The above points are only not confirmed ideas, at least at the moment.
Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) Tweeted:
HYDROXYCHLOROQUINE & AZITHROMYCIN, taken together, have a real chance to be one of the biggest game changers in the history of medicine. The FDA has moved mountains - Thank You! Hopefully they will BOTH (H works better with A, International Journal of Antimicrobial Agents)… https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1241367239900778501?s=20
I’m not a doctor, but the mindset helps.
And that’s it from me about UK medical staff.
P.S. I especially liked this “37. You make life and death decisions and get involved in potentially hazardous situations as a doctor usually – this is a highly concentrated version of what you know how to do, and know you can do.”. I think it’s good advice for everyone, customized to each one’s unique circumstances.
The whole thread is a beauty (or horror, depends). Half people thank him as a omnipotent savior, half people have no more shock to feel after what they just read.
Download the data file: “time_series_2019-ncov-Confirmed.csv”
Run this python code:
import pandas
from matplotlib import pyplot as plt
# Obtain the raw data from https://data.humdata.org/dataset/novel-coronavirus-2019-ncov-cases
df = pandas.read_csv('time_series_2019-ncov-Confirmed.csv')
df = df.groupby('Country/Region').sum().drop(columns=['Lat', 'Long']).transpose()
# Select which countries to plot
countries = ['Japan', 'Korea, South', 'Italy', 'US', 'Spain', 'France', 'Germany', 'Portugal', 'United Kingdom', 'Australia']
# Skip the first 25 days
skip = 25
# Customize the range of the plot
min_cases = 50
max_cases = 1e5
# Customize the line styles
styles = ['o-', 'v-.', '^:', 's--', 'd-', 'h-.', '>:', '<--', 'X-', 'p-.']
# Customize the grid lines
ax = plt.gca()
ax.xaxis.set_major_locator(plt.MultipleLocator(7))
ax.xaxis.set_minor_locator(plt.MultipleLocator(1))
ax.grid(which='minor', ls='--', alpha=0.3)
ax.set_title('Confirmed Cases (JHU Data)')
df[countries].iloc[skip:].plot(ax=ax, logy=True, figsize=(20,15), style=styles, grid=True, ylim=(min_cases, max_cases))
# Optional: save the figure to a file
# Comment out the next line if you do not want this script to create a file
plt.savefig('cases.png', bbox_inches='tight')
Today I went to the supermarket and the cashier didn’t allow me to buy the toilet paper. Apparently the prefecture had decided it’s not a primary-necessity item.
I bought beer.
