Decisions that do not matter

Decisions that do not matter 1

In the situation below, which corner would you play?
A or B?
Note: Your moves are not restricted to hoshi (4-4), you can play anything, such as komoku (4-3) or something else, as long as it’s in the corner.

  • A (top left corner)
  • B (bottom right corner)
  • I won’t play in the corner!
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I prefer bottom corners because they seem closer to me. It is an issue of virtual board on OGS. There is no ability to rotate.

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Board symmetry is nonsense. The lower part of the board is MINE!

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I prefer my two opening stones to be on the right or the bottom. Launching attacks from Left base on the right side or from Top base on the bottom seems unnatural for me.

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Didn’t AI teach to invade at 3-3 already?

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TENGEN!

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I mean I wouldn’t rotate a physical board either once we started playing :slight_smile:

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When I used to play weekly (but cluelessly) with a friend in the 1980s we sometimes used to rotate the board 90°, 180°, or 270°, just to exercise our reading and recognition of patterns :blush:

That was FUN, I tell ya, and I’d LOVE to have this option on OGS!

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For opponent in front of you a physical board is rotated by 180.
The OGS board is displayed at the same angle for both players.

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Yeah but it’s not like a chess board where you’re sitting behind the black pieces already on the board.

If you go first you can pretend you sitting whatever way you want, and when your opponent plays a move you can pretend they’re looking at it upside down if it helps.

But experience is very different. If both players have preference for orientation a black one get extra bonus in OGS.

For me the poll result looks very interesting. Most players including me prefer bottom side. Maybe it’s hardwired into human brain.

I think you’re overthinking it. Polite corner is upper right, under the assumption that that makes playing in their lower right convenient for your opponent, which, if a cross game is not entered (as is normal), will result in vertical sides rather than horizontal, so it’s nicest to maintain this online

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It does not solve the problem. You still see the same image as opponent.
On physical board you see a rotated image.

You can perform a simple experiment. Set 180 rotation angle in display setting. You may be able to read the text upside down. It’s easy for me. But everything else will be very hard. Computer mouse will be unusable. I don’t believe you can rollback to normal setting without rotating your head. The only simple solution to rollback is touchscreen.

Or just try a lite version. Rotate your mouse by 180 degree in your hand.

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I think it’s an actual problem in chess where normally over the board your pawns move away from you and your opponents pawns move toward you.

Your pieces are closest to you starting off and there’s a white square on your right hand side.

Lots of constraints which can make an actual difference I would say if rotated or not.

I don’t think it matters as much if me and my opponent look at an empty Go board the same way or upside down.

You can say that maybe it’s nice to play Sanrensei always the same way on the right hand side, and then maybe for some reason it’s easier to invade a Sanrensei on you left hand side as white, but I don’t think it’s that big of a deal, the pieces don’t move, the patterns are fairly local, you kind of need to read ladders in all directions, though there’s a few tricks to shortcut it.

If I want to block you playing Sanrensei on your right side I can anyway on move 2.

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I don’t think this addresses my post in any way, is it meant to be a response?

Yes. It is response to

Polite corner is upper right, under the assumption that that makes playing in their lower right convenient for your opponent, which, if a cross game is not entered (as is normal), will result in vertical sides rather than horizontal, so it’s nicest to maintain this online

It does not matter vertical sides or horizontal sides in case of preference. Just look at the poll result. It is not 50/50. Different people, different countries, different cultures. May be it is related to brain physiology.

On real board there is no same issue.

How does the poll not being 50/50 mean people have no preference on vertical or horizontal?

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How does the poll not being 50/50 mean people have no preference on vertical or horizontal?

The non 50/50 poll mean different people have the same preference.

I bet the poll about left or right preference won’t be 50/50.

This is a poll about left-right preference. it’s like you’re noting obvious things about the poll, and then making unrelated and/or far-fetched claims with no connection to said obstructions, while objecting to my simple proposal of how existing tradition can explain the data with no additional assumptions about physiology or different cultures

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Do you think that the title of the thread may modify the way people vote?