KataGo planning how to auto-score this game
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I donāt tend to treat āinternal libertiesā as a separate concept, I just give examples of L&D situations that make use of them to explain the āno self-captureā rule as well as the āwhen itās your turn, your capture takes priority over being capturedā
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Nor do I. Same as you, I simply start by introducing the idea of life and death: How do I not get captured? How about a hole inside like a doughnut or bagel and why that doesnāt work. But what if you have two? Their response was, " How is this a liberty if I canāt play there?" Kind of left me speechless.
A liberty of a stone is an unoccupied intersection adjacent to that stone or to any stone connected to that stone.
Of course. I am not confused. They simply did not want to accept that explanation. Never had that kind of reaction before.
so my way of handling the āno self-captureā rule, is to say that āthe active playerās captures take priority over being captured, therefore it is not self-capture and thus a legal moveā
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Same.
Ko is often my first example of that, that way it makes a nice segue into the ko rule, of which I only explain in terms of superko until they get better
Itās not an explanation, itās a rule. Surely that would have convinced them?
In this case, no. Shrugs. It was like they had a philosophical problem with the gameā¦
I donāt like the term ālibertyā at all. Itās just a confusing term.
I prefer to talk about ābreathing spacesā when introducing people to the game. Only later I may tell them that these spaces are actually called ālibertiesā (for some reason that I donāt know of) in the standard terminology of go.
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Huh, okay. Well itās not like I have never criticized the rules of a game. 
some people really get stuck on āno self-captureā sometimes, honestly itās kind of an unnecessary rule to teach to beginners, since most of its real effect is to limit certain ko threats
AHEM!
Donāt make me tap the sign 
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This. One really needs to chose words very carefully and with precision when teaching go. This person really took issue with ālibertyā. How is it a liberty if I am not free to use it kind of attitudeā¦
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Iām not sure itās a Go Meme, but:
My reaction to the fact that the WAGC was uploaded with class D (0.25* rank change, +9 instead of +36)
My graph confirms it:
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This has to be the cutest pun Iāve ever heard of. Letās adopt this convention immediately 
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