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KataGo planning how to auto-score this game

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I don’t tend to treat ā€œinternal libertiesā€ as a separate concept, I just give examples of L&D situations that make use of them to explain the ā€œno self-captureā€ rule as well as the ā€œwhen it’s your turn, your capture takes priority over being capturedā€

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Nor do I. Same as you, I simply start by introducing the idea of life and death: How do I not get captured? How about a hole inside like a doughnut or bagel and why that doesn’t work. But what if you have two? Their response was, " How is this a liberty if I can’t play there?" Kind of left me speechless.

A liberty of a stone is an unoccupied intersection adjacent to that stone or to any stone connected to that stone.

Of course. I am not confused. They simply did not want to accept that explanation. Never had that kind of reaction before.

so my way of handling the ā€œno self-captureā€ rule, is to say that ā€œthe active player’s captures take priority over being captured, therefore it is not self-capture and thus a legal moveā€

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Same.

Ko is often my first example of that, that way it makes a nice segue into the ko rule, of which I only explain in terms of superko until they get better

It’s not an explanation, it’s a rule. Surely that would have convinced them?

In this case, no. Shrugs. It was like they had a philosophical problem with the game…

I don’t like the term ā€œlibertyā€ at all. It’s just a confusing term.
I prefer to talk about ā€œbreathing spacesā€ when introducing people to the game. Only later I may tell them that these spaces are actually called ā€œlibertiesā€ (for some reason that I don’t know of) in the standard terminology of go.

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Huh, okay. Well it’s not like I have never criticized the rules of a game. :sweat_smile:

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some people really get stuck on ā€œno self-captureā€ sometimes, honestly it’s kind of an unnecessary rule to teach to beginners, since most of its real effect is to limit certain ko threats

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AHEM!

Don’t make me tap the sign :neutral_face:

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This. One really needs to chose words very carefully and with precision when teaching go. This person really took issue with ā€˜liberty’. How is it a liberty if I am not free to use it kind of attitude…

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I’m not sure it’s a Go Meme, but:

My reaction to the fact that the WAGC was uploaded with class D (0.25* rank change, +9 instead of +36)

immagine

My graph confirms it:

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This has to be the cutest pun I’ve ever heard of. Let’s adopt this convention immediately :dog:.

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