I donât understand where Iâm supposed to find this? The obvious option would be under the âWatchâ option on the navbar, but it doesnât seem to be there. I also canât find it anywhere else. Where exactly is the âGoTV page on OGSâ?
Sounds like you need to reload the page @Thunkd , if that doesnât work try holding down the shift key while reloading to force a full reload.
It was visible for me on the right top once I typed in the specific url and loaded the page. I was as confused
@anoek I want to be clear, I am not against this feature. I just want to make sure it will not negatively effect streamers who make money from streaming. Features are fine but a lot of red flags go up when money is involved.
To several of your points, I honestly donât know how Twitch will handle them. Ideally this will only help streamers I hope.
I feel like if any of your concerns come to fruition, it would be cause for a twitch issue report, not grounds to scrap this project.
I find this hilarious xD
The goal here is to have a positive impact on matching streamers with viewers. I think a healthy streaming community is a good part of a healthy community overall, so thatâs the goal here, to support that part of the Go community. Itâs supposed to be good for you, it should have a positive impact on your viewer counts and thus revenue. If it doesnât, letâs figure out why and iterate, simple as that.
Looking at stream counts today the numbers are looking good for Dwyrin and Gooplet, better than average. Iâm assuming that today, with the launch of the new feature, we had some folks checking it out that might not otherwise, so weâll have to wait and see how things look in a week or so, but so far so good.
This is so cool!! I actually got more engagement today while streaming than I think Iâve ever had before, so i really appreciate you doing this! Itâs such a clean interface, too, which I really appreciate.
One question - is there an easy way to grab OGS chat messages from the API? If so, streamers could pretty easily incorporate it into their stream if they wanted to. But as per @Clossius1âs concerns, that might be more damaging to actual Twitch statistics for the streamer than it would be helpful. Either way, could be a cool thing to try out.
Honestly i think this specifically is what will hurt streamers more than anything else lol, bot accounts streaming 24/7 will probably discourage people from engaging with gotv on ogs in general
Anyway thank you so much for this awesome new feature!! I love it!
You know, when we were working through this it seemed logical to put ogs chat in there just for ease of use and whatnot. Using it today, Iâm leaning more towards just using the twitch chat. Weâll look at things periodically over the next week and see how much use the OGS chat gets, if itâs actually useful and people like that then maybe itâs good to keep, otherwise weâll just get rid of it and use twitch chat only. If we keep it, weâll make an easy to use API or pop out box for yâall or something that makes sense.
Yeah, I think weâll probably end up black listing that one.
Why is that hilarious?
This is a genuine question - I simply donât know what you are talking about.
Unless youâre making fun of someone just starting out, for their low viewer count?
The user in question is a bot account that streams 24/7, just replaying professional games. There are a couple like this that pop up off and on (eg TwitchPlaysGo), and Iâm not sure whether theyâre run by the same person.
Normally, people who regularly use Twitch can recognize that these are bot accounts, and just ignore them, and streams like this one end up having zero human viewers.
So the fact that it has 17 viewers is highly unusual, and entirely due to OGS GoTV
So that sounds like a âgood proof of the effectiveness of this thingâ.
What was funny?
The other stream right now (an actual person) has only 3 viewersâŠ
If you have a list (either here or PM) @RubyMineshaft is putting together a black list system to filter those out
I guess Iâm not sure why exactly Clossius thought it was funny, but Iâd guess just because itâs pretty shocking, from the perspective of somebody whoâs familiar with Twitch Go viewership.
Bot content like this dilutes twitch, potentially takes away people from other streams, and sometimes turns people off of the Go category altogether (interested parties might look at the Go category, see that only this user is live, then never check again), so arguably its existence is rather harmful.
On GoTV, itâs at the top of the list, and my assumption is that users who navigate to gotv often wouldnât have much idea what theyâre looking at, would assume that this userâs content is pretty much all that theyâd find there, then not bother again.
Hard to say for sure without observing things over the next few days/week whether this actually will have any meaningful impact.
Okay! The only other one Iâm aware of is Twitch_Plays_Go_. Iâll PM Ruby if i notice any in the future!
Note: Iâm totally new to Go streaming, a new user brought to you by GoTV.
So this is all news to me
What I did find irritating is clicking on it and seeing âSorry about this, we are preparing your streamâ.
If we could filter those out itâd be nice
aw well happy to have you joining the world of Go streaming! ^^
this is such a small issue, iâm just extremely bad at brevity when it comes to discussing any problem whatsoever. I donât think it actually matters all that much haha
Welcome to OGF, you must be new here
I think this is just completely on Twitchâs end and has to do with however theyâve put together their infrastructure (and has nothing to do with the particular streamer). Kind of surprising in this day and age, but I guess just a reminder of the people behind the scenes manually switching around the intertubes.
I think it would be cool to see a streamer on OGS click on the GoTV button, and watch themselves stream
I saw exactly that happening yesterday.