Is there a way to get a sound (beep) when in atari?

Also, this might lead to over-focusing on the immediate Atari, and thus to knee-jerk answers to that move, without considering the vicinity of the atari’ing move or the whole board. Easy to see with an Oi-otoshi (“connect and lose even more stones”).

Example from Oiotoshi at Sensei's Library
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Asking myself, is it possible to make a 3 ataris move?

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Like this ? ^^

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What about stones that remain in atari for many moves? Should it only beep the first time that stones are put in atari?

And I suppose that beeping on self-atari is always too late.

I think that audio accessibility features need to be thought out well to avoid getting a pretty useless cacophony on each and every turn during some tactical interaction.

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just one beep on the first atri.

there is a good discussion at senesis library calling out atari.

" … This discussion considers the practice of saying “atari” to one’s opponent when one puts a chain in atari and whether this is good etiquette or a bad habit. …"

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I’m clearly on the “Bad Habit” side, my reasons:

  • It is superfluous, annoying and actually an insult towards the opponent—but I won’t be offended if my opponent does it. I do, however, allow undos when playing with beginners, sometimes I even suggest it.

  • Recognizing the Atari is part of the skills needed to play the game …

  • and thus it is counterproductive.

All that said, if a beginner asks me to say “Atari”, I’d do so in the first, say, three games.

Has never happened though.

I’d for one prefer giving two or three stones too many :slight_smile: because I don’t mind losing against Handicap, plus the gratification of a victory for a beginner seems much stronger when they win by themselves (even with Handicap) rather than with the opponent warning them of traps.

Imagine such a game during a long Ko battle

BEEP! BEEP! BEEP! BEEP! BEEP! BEEP!

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No, should put it at once
Like here

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I’ve been trying to figure this out too. I think taking the ko makes the capturing rattle sound but doesn’t count as an atari since it’s your own stone and it can’t be captured. And ko threats aren’t necessarily ataris, but they do lift the ko ban so maybe that counts? So we would get:

Rattle! BEEP! Click. Rattle! BEEP! Click.

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I can imagine some speech system that describes each move as it’s played, like a Japanese pro game recorder would. In a live game it might be useful for people who have some sort of visual impairment?

But would it still be useful for correspondence play where you potentially switch from one game to next on every move, or when people also have some sort of auditory impairment?

Just wondering… Can you see ataris on a real board? If you can, you might consider to duplicate your online game on a real board.

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The only problem I can imagine is that you have trouble distinguishing between different stones and empty spaces. You can try changing stone colors to more contrast ones(for example: red and yellow for stones and change board color to white). I think it will work even if you’re colorblind, just use colors you can see and neglect ones you can’t.
If you’re playing irl, you can use go board for visually impaired. It might turn out you have such board in one of yours local go clubs(at least I have this type of go board in my club). It may improve your game experience and you don’t need to be blind to use it.

If making stones easily distinguishable don’t work then I don’t think it’s visual problem you have.

just one click for each color-location pair.

i can see an atari with a little effort. but playing ou the game on a real board would be a real hassle. i like to play fairly fast.

i don’t think the colors would help. my one sorta good eye has trouble reading numbers. it is a bit dislexic. i can see the horizontal lines ok, but the vertical lines are not clear. so i can think stones are connect that are not, and think have a cut when i do not.

rotate board?

Yep, it’s tricky. It sounds pretty severe from what you are describing. How long ago did your vision decline? and is it still declining or did it stabilize?
I assumed people tend to adapt to things like that with time, practice and just getting used to restrictions they have.

Most obvious advice I can give it to go see a doctor or directly go to ophthalmologist who might direct you to make some special exercises. Beyond that I would advise playing more slowly, while cautiously examining whole board; get a big monitor to make it easier on eyes.

I myself likely to miss an atari when playing tilted. So I don’t think that’s uncommon for anyone to miss something under time pressure or when playing too many games without a proper rest.

So, maybe such a design as in “The Conquest of Go” could perhaps help?

The game connects to OGS also, BTW. Here’s the thread for it:

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I just want to clarify that while The Conquest of Go does have visual and audio cues built into the fantasy board themes (atari graphics, atari audio, connected stones, shape detection output), these features are disabled during online play so the player does not get an advantage over those playing directly on OGS.

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had cataract surgery and lemses inserted about 2 years ago. you can see my decline here. one can not read or distinguishg stomes on the board. the other has the horizontal dislexia and i don’t always notice a cut or an atari if it is halg way across the board. vision seems stable for now. i am seeing a retinal specialist. going to maybe switch to a larger tv as a monitor soon and see what that’s like.

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