ahd1
June 28, 2026, 2:51pm
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My impression is KGS is frozen in time, barring whatever it is that kgsai.com represents. No other changes, no growth, no effort from AGF to fix that, and a slowly (or not so slowly) evaporating user base.
Is that impression correct? Does anybody else have any better information they can or will share?
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I go back there once in a while but it seems like the sound problem will never be fixed.
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ronin3
June 28, 2026, 3:54pm
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Using shinkgs you could use this script for getting a stone sound
javascript:(function(){function beep(){var snd = new Audio("data:audio/mpeg;base64,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playSound( debug ) {if(debug)console.log('beep!');if(!debug) beep();}function hum(){ var getdec = document.getElementsByClassName('GameClock-running');var ppp = getdec[0].parentElement.parentElement.parentElement.parentElement;if(ppp.className.includes('white')){ lastcolor1 = 'white'; } else { lastcolor1 = 'black' };if(window.lastcolor == lastcolor1){ } else { playSound(false);window.lastcolor = lastcolor1; };}setInterval( hum, 350 );})();
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Thanks but I don’t want a server to require me to use a custom script just to get stone sound
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its antiquated. The AGA should encourage everyone to move to OGS. It would also be great if the AGA hosted more events on OGS especially trying to get Michael Redmond and some other pros to play here. OGS is one of the best for practicallity and user interface, and options. But lacks strong players. And the lack of strong players becomes a cycle. This is where the breakthru needs to occur.
KGS deserves a lovely funeral. It was the best option for the Western player for quite a while.
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manapy
June 29, 2026, 1:10pm
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I really miss the old days on KGS. I played there as a kid and have really fond memories of the communities, the chat rooms everywhere, and the friends (and rivals) I made. We talked and kibitzed way more than we played.
Coming back to Go on OGS, I don’t really get that same feeling. It feels much less lively to me, and more like a server just centered around playing correspondence games.
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Michael Redmond is playing on OGS.
Often teaching on Sunday.
Michaels account
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