Lee Sedol vs HanDol

With the first match of Lee Sedol vs Korean AI HanDol beginning less than 12 hours from now, I thought it would be good to have resources pertaining to the matches in an easy to find place.

The first match begins 2019-12-18T03:00:00Z. Lee will play as black with a 2 stone handicap. HanDol will take 7.5 point komi.

Moves will be relayed at:

The following streams will be offering live commentary during the match:


I will update this post as I find more streams and resources

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Match Schedule:

  1. Dec 18, Seoul
  2. Dec 19, Seoul
  3. Dec 21, Sinan-gun (Lee’s homeland)

Rules are: Lee starts with 2 stones but white gets 7.5 points. If he wins, second game is even, if loses, second game with 3 stones. Depending on the results of the second game, third game’s handicap is also adjusted. (Time limit is 2 hours, I think)

To remind, AI opponent is called Handol (한돌, 韩豆). Last AI tournament it finished 3rd losing only to FineArt and Golaxy. Link to 3rd place match. In January it also played a series of games against top Korean players, one game against Shin Jinseo is on youtube:

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So do we know when Lee Sedol will be playing Handol? Or if it will be relayed somewhere?

@S_Alexander gave the dates in an earlier post:

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Ah yes, I either missed that or just completely forgot where it was said :slight_smile: thanks!

Already only around one week left. I can’t wait for the match. I wonder if anyone is going to cover it live. Maybe Yoonyoung? Or @xhu98 has any plans? I also think we could relay the moves on OGS since it’s such a big match.

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Yoonyoung has said that she plans to stream during the match

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Maybe Michael Redmond and Chris Garlock will steam/relay it in OGS, only discovered they started steaming yesterday when they reviewed a game on OGS :slight_smile:

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Yeonwoo Cho’s latest video talks more about Sedol’s game with Handol in the second half (timestamped in the link)

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The first half of that video is also relevant to our discussion above of move 78 from game 4 of the Lee Sedol vs AlphaGo match,

Starting from:

Until:

It seems that the new development is that only recently has Lee Sedol called it a “trick move”.

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So what’s our predictions? How will the match go? Lots of people say with authority that Lee is going to win 3 stones against komi. And to not be a sheep I want to say that Handol wins second game too so it’s going to be 0-0-1 for Lee Sedol. Is it too crazy to imagine bots learning to play handicap well?

Lee’s interview, you can auto-generate auto-translate subtitles.

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I’m gonna go ahead and say Handol goes the whole series undefeated :slight_smile:

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A POLL, somebody PLEASE make a poll! (Must end before the games begin, of course … or maybe even three polls, one for each game? I don’t know.)

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Sounds like you just volunteered

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Nope, TBH, I’m still overwhelmed by Real Life “and stuff”. I was honestly expressing a wish. But I don’t really have the time to write up something informative, I know too little about the match, etc., etc.

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Fair call :slight_smile: sorry for putting you on the spot :heart: honestly great to see you pop in

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  • Lee 3 - 0 HanDol
  • Lee 2 - 1 HanDol
  • Lee 1 - 2 HanDol
  • Lee 0 - 3 HanDol

0 voters

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This poll isn’t very good because 1-2 can go 0-0-1 or 0-1-0 and these are the two most likely outcomes.

I thought to make a poll but decided against it because we have 8 options but only 2 viable so it becomes a bit silly,

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The first game is in less than 48 hours now, right? Anyone knows exact game start time?

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Figured if anyone would know it’d be you :sweat_smile:

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