Arenât they? And even if itâs not a camera, keeping some game record must be common. One just needs to know who played where and when.
Anyway, I will not complain if the solution is less technical. A switch to area scoring would be superb 
Iâm talking about cameras that come with or are connected to softwares that will automatically record down the game without human intervention.
I see. I dont think CV is really necessary. One could fix this issue with 90âs technology. Play back the video when there is a dispute.
My point is that just because the technology is available doesnât mean it will be used, just like how the suggestion of using technology to keep track of the captures stones may be possible but may not be widely used.
If the âinternational rulesâ that eventually everyone agrees upon is using area scoring then yeah⌠But I wonder when that will be 
Play back the video when there is a dispute.
Thatâs not really the point, is it?
My understanding is that itâs not about determining who won in the end, itâs about making sure that captured stones are fully visible at all times throughout the game so that a player does not make a wrong assessment of the game position because they see two captured stones in the lid and forgot a third one was captured and is currently somewhat hidden on the other side.
A video playback or a game record doesnât help with that. What could help is a screen displaying at all times the number of captured stones⌠a rather inelegant solution in my view but it works
In chess, we are seeing some e-sport-style matches when players play on computers in the same room. There is probably way less refereeing problems, especially for very fast time controls. There is room for this style of competition but I donât see it replacing the traditional setup.
When a go player born online arrives at a club or tournament, he or she has to learn to hold the stones, to push on the clock, to keep the prisoners, to make nice rectangles to count at the end. Probably we could have a smartphone app to do that for us, and that is so convenient that we lose a part of the experience of learning and playing a go game; I remember the sound of the captured stones going in the lid in Pandanet. Must some refereeing problem mean that playing without technology become impossible ?
Thatâd be awkward for territory scoring if you have to take back out the prisoners, or the net prisoners to fill in and rearrange the areas.
Actually having a lot of prisoners from ko fighting or captures, also greatly simplifies rearranging and counting territories.
Probably I would go full ai/computer scoring if one was going to electronically count the prisoners.
Perhaps. In several sports, various refereeing controversies have created significant pressure towards adopting technical solutions. Itâs hard to imagine professional football ever going back to a time without VAR and goal-line technology.
Oh thatâs a good point. I thought the point was to make sure thereâs no funny business, but i could see how players would use stones to evaluate the status.
Though⌠if one is piling stones, I donât personally see how itâs much easier to count
It really depends on the language.
In our football league, a few years ago the championship was flipped on a technicality.
The team that was first in the league by 1 point lost on the football field (and thus it was overtaken), but took things to court and won the three points there, thus getting back the first place on paper.
Some people do not count that championship, at all, when talking about that teamâs number of championships, thus getting a verbal result like the one you are talking about.
Others like to be more factual and more subtle in their disdain and refer to it as âX+1â.
Other are more specific and blunt and call it a âpaper championshipâ or, as the local expression goes, âa synthetic leather championshipâ (meaning that it is not genuine/true).
No fan of the other teams accepted this as a âlegitimate championshipâ and it is generally considered an affront to the spirit of the game, even on a league that has had quite a history of corruption.
Even most of the fans of the team that did get the championship are mostly ashamed for getting it âon paperâ and try not to talk about it. Opposing fans chanting at them âDonât worry, there are always the courtroomsâ every time they lose a game, is quite the bother for them.
A lot of fans would be in favour of that, since all those interruptions spoil the actual rhythm of the game.
Though⌠if one is piling stones, I donât personally see how itâs much easier to count
I donât think itâs useless, as per my previous comment (which you already liked!)
Haha i read your previous message in the context of
I canât believe they decided to repeal this law in Europe too. European legends must repeal it in America.
Where did you find information about European rules and American ones, please?
World No. 1 Shin Jinseo speaks up.
A bit long so not pasting the entire text here.
Highlights as below:
- Ke Jie was upset about the second game of the finals, but the protest in the third game was excessive.
- There was a mistake by the Korea Baduk Association, so we need to compromise and talk to each other.
- Byun Sangil 9th dan is the biggest victim⌠I hope it will be resolved amicably.
Finally some positive news�
CWA will work with KBA to promote the rationalization and internationalization of rules
The China Weiqi Association will work with the Korea Baduk Association to promote the rationalization and internationalization of rules
Xinhua News Agency, Beijing, February 5th (Reporter Wang Jingyu) â An official from the China Weiqi Association stated in an interview with Xinhua on the 5th that the association acknowledges and welcomes the Korean Baduk Associationâs move to amend its controversial rules. The Chinese side also expressed anticipation for collaborative efforts with the Korea Baduk Association to further promote the rationalization and internationalization of the rules.
The first meeting of the Korea Baduk Associationâs Steering Committee in 2025 was held in Seoul on the 3rd, where it was decided to change the ârules for handling captured stonesâ that caused controversy in the finals of the 29th LG Cup World Championship and to abolish the relevant rules of âdirect disqualification for two consecutive violationsâ. Previously, according to the Korea Baduk Association rules, if the captured stones were not placed inside the bowl lid, a penalty of two points would be given for the first time, and direct disqualification for the second time.
According to the relevant person in charge of the China Weiqi Association, the Korea Baduk Association sent an official document to the Chinese Weiqi Association on February 5, explicitly abolishing the rule of disqualification for two consecutive violations, and cancelling the controversial regulations such as the penalty for violations in the recent international competitions hosted by Korea, such as the Nongshim Cup and the Worldâs Strongest Go Player Championship. The rule demands of the Chinese Weiqi Association have now received a positive response from the Korean side, creating conditions for the two sides to continue exchanges. The China Weiqi Association expressed its affirmation and welcome to the attitude of the Korea Baduk Association.
According to the relevant person in charge, since the controversy surrounding the 29th LG Cup final occurred, the China Weiqi Association has always adhered to the principles of respecting the rules and the event organizers and carried out appeals and subsequent active communication within the framework of the rules. Regarding the relevant issues of the 29th LG Cup final, the two sides will continue to consult and respond to social concerns promptly. Recently, there has been a lot of false information online about the LG Cup final and the process of modifying the Korean Go rules. It is hoped that the majority of Go enthusiasts will not believe or spread rumors, and jointly maintain a healthy development environment for Go.
The relevant person in charge said that the China Weiqi Association will, through this incident, earnestly strengthen the research awareness and adaptability of the rules in preparation for the competition, and also look forward to working with the Korea Baduk Association to jointly promote the rationalization and internationalization of the rules, to ensure the stable operation of Go events, minimize the uncertainty of the refereeing factors affecting the outcome of the game, and fully demonstrate the Go spirit of the players determining the outcome by their skills on the board.
According to reports, at the meeting on the 3rd, the Korea Baduk Association conducted in-depth discussions and research on the relevant regulations, and the meeting recognized that the new regulations were too strict, as factors outside the game had a direct impact on the outcome of the game, and decided to change the regulations regarding the storage of the captured stones.
The Korea Baduk Association also stated that it will actively consult with China, Japan and other parties to formulate Go rules that can be used in future international Go competitions.
P.S. Previously KBA only mentioned that the rule that results in a loss by forfeit due to accumulated fouls will be removed, but the above also says that the rule that results in the penalty will also be cancelled. It is unclear whether the penalty is only cancelled for some competitions mentioned above or it is cancelled permanently. We will probably have to wait for more information and see.
I donât know how much of the answer was him, his manager or his lawyer, but I will file it under
âExamples of well-thought, balanced and polite responses to drama from famous peopleâ.
Haha, Shin Jinseo is well-known for his eloquent and well-thought-out replies to interview questions. You would think that by being so strong in Go he should have some defects elsewhere but no 