No, it has nothing to do with the OGS team. I think it’s what naturally happens when you try to do it the way we did it.
Your whole comment, to me, seems more like you are trying to win the argument or defend your decisions, and not like you’re trying to meaningfully engage with my criticism.
I never said the “process” that was in place so far has been good. I literally stated several times that it’s not working and “has been an uphill battle” etc.
But I’m saying what you’re proposing to do now isn’t good either, if it’s not worse.
You are saying that people with “UI/UX design experience” wouldn’t do this and that. Might be true we don’t really have people with too much “UI/UX design experience” as we have established several times. But now the same unexperienced people are simply moving playing fields, they are not suddenly gaining experience and skill by joining the dev chat.
It seems that this isn’t really going anywhere but I want to explain my concern one more time with an example. There is currently this thread:
Where the user sjrothsc is proposing to change the color for the light mode in OGS. I personally agree with his ideas and think he has great ideas in general. I personally use dark mode because I really don’t like how the light mode in OGS looks and naively thought probably no one does.
Two polls have shown that indeed the majority of users want a change but it is not clear at all if they all want the same change. In the end another power user (square.defender) showed up and even told us that he really likes the current implementation of the light mode.
As always we are stuck with this. It’s unclear how we can come to a decision if we want to change the color of the light mode and if we will ever do it. Even though it’s an easy change. So yeah the old process doesn’t work.
Now the new process (as I understand it) is that our friend sjrothsc just directly goes to the dev chat, where square.defender might not see him, and avoids the “pointless public comittee” to instead “get his ideas into practice”.
And to again quote from the current dev chat to give this some context:
but if I can come up with a series of ideas that make the user experience and interface better, without having to do a full-on overhaul of the whole front end… would that be something you devs are interested in?
How is “coming up with a series of ideas to make the UX better” in the dev chat, in any way more productive than the “old approach” of “coming up with a series of ideas to make the UX better” in the forum? I maintain that the only difference I can find is:
Yes, this is what I wanted to get at. We should find a fair and transparent contribution process for the UI/UX design that is documented in the contribution guide.