Random Gaps + Pie Rule

A7 :white_circle:

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A4:

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B8.

Conditional moves

If A5 or J2, then J4.

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Cool.

So J2 J4 and then A5.

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Pass!

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Same, just trying to count it :slight_smile:

Edit: Is it White 43 - 42 Black as in W+1?

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Yep, I agree with that score!


Black area (from top to bottom): 9+9+8+7+4+4+1 = 42
White area (from bottom to top): 9+8+8+4+4+2+1 + 7 komi = 43

Thank you for the game!

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Thanks for the game, very interesting, and quite tough :slight_smile:

Here’s a recap of the game

and one that loops

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Awesome game, thank you for playing @shinuito @le_4TC !

Move 23 seemed like a very important moment to me. I’m wondering if both of you considered the following variations and what you think of it.

… would cutting in the corner instead of the outside make a difference here?

Perhaps black can make life this way?

In any case, I really enjoyed spectating this game. How do you like the variant?

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Both those variations are probably winning for black. The issue for me is that I’m not alive yet along the lower side (D9 kills locally it looks like) so if I can’t kill G7 I’m in trouble :slight_smile:

I think I misplayed the opening, and had to claw my way back into the game. The shapes around the holes are very counterintuitive, so there was lots of brute-force reading to handle the life and death and endgame there.

The capturing race in the upper right was interesting, and could have just as well happened on a normal board. In this position black can choose between two different ko variations, G2 and J1:


I think G2 is better than J1, since it lets black take the ko first (G2 J2 J1):

Also when black eventually finishes the ko with J3, it’s slightly better endgame compared to the game (where white got J3 instead in the end) :slight_smile:

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Right, thank you for the comment. In case somebody is interested, I’d like to share these variations after 23. H4:

In this variation I wonder if white can do something in the upper-left, for example play B3.

Here it might result in a capturing race between whites group on the lower side and blacks group on the right side.

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Yeah I think I was weighing up cutting on either side, but getting confused by the variations, trying to figure out which one le_4tc would choose :slight_smile:

I didn’t realise it was a ko in the corner.

I also didn’t realise my choice :stuck_out_tongue:

this looks pretty cool too and it didn’t even occur to me. There was a couple of times where I had to watch out for Black’s liberties in the middle of the board because of the holes.

I think it was a good game, and the variant is really cool :slight_smile:

Definitely an interesting reading exercise :slight_smile:

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Anybody want to play on a bigger board with lots of gaps? Like 13x13 with ~40 random gaps :grin:

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It might be nice for you to post the looping one in Images of newer times.

Perhaps slow it down a bit as well?

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It sounds cool, might wait to see if anyone else wants to get involved first :slight_smile:

We might run into this islands idea yebellz was talking about Random Gaps + Pie Rule - #187 by yebellz . Although one could just generate a few times to avoid that.

I’ll have to update the tool to change board sizes. Initially I just wanted something working and there was a good bit to learn re css javascript etc :slight_smile: might be a good few things to change :slight_smile:

@bugcat as in

slow enough?

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If that’s what you’re happy with~

I mean I was happy just posting the one or two gifs in this thread, as opposed to make more, and slowing them down for another thread? :stuck_out_tongue:

It was only a suggestion > ω <

Translation of @bugcat s response: Perhaps a bit slower would be good.

:stuck_out_tongue_closed_eyes:

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I did eventually rewrite lots of things to try and make other board sizes work. I think initially I was just happy learning things in css, javascript etc, but didn’t make some things easy on myself to change the board size.

Enough changed that I just moved it to a new page

https://shinuito.github.io/nxnboard.html

Let me know if I’ve broken anything too, in particular if it’s broken on mobile/tablet or on a particular browser :slight_smile: The old 9x9 only one is still as it was on the old link.

Anyway you can end up with mad things like these

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or

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