resigning after lost stones

in a 9x9 game, how stones does it take to lose before the game is over when should just resign and move on 6 stones 8 stones ??? how many and please don’t tell to play till the end that would be wasting my oppoents time and my own

You can resign whenever you want.

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yes when though in a 9x9 game, losing a differential of 6 or 8 stones is it impossible to come back from , thats my question sorry about being vague

I don’t think there’s an exact number. It really depends on the state of the game. Here is a game I won by 7.5 points, but my opponent had 8 prisoners: uridium vs. PRHG

8 stones might mean game over. However if you have captured enough territory you might be able to make up for the loss.

Edit: even if you lose a bunch of prisoners, the same thing could happen to your opponent as well, which could also offset your loss. Additionally, if you play as white you generally get some extra points (called komi) as compensation for having to play second, this can also offset the loss of some pieces.

Keep in mind, your ultimate goal is not to capture pieces, and your opponent’s ultimate goal is not to capture yours. The ultimate goal is to stake out regions of the board.

Not impossible. It depends on the level tho.
But as long you dont just spam resign without reason, noone will complain.

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For a beginning player in a 9x9 game, I’d say losing 6-8 stones within the first 20-30 moves can be very reasonable grounds for a resignation.

Once again, I encourage you to hit the OGS Score Estimator button on the sidebar. Take a look at the estimator’s guess as to which opponent has potential in which part of the board

IF your color has a chance to overcome that point difference by grabbing some part of the board which is still up for grabs (i.e. the OGS score estimator hasn’t assigned it one color or another), then you might want to keep playing

But if the estimator shows no reasonable place where you can make up that difference, chances are you’re going to end up as behind as you currently are or more so, and yes - resigning is a totally valid option.

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They appear to be mostly playing live matches. Looks like score estimator is not available in those games. Well, at least those started using automatch, not sure about custom games.

To be frank, I wouldnt ever trust the OGS score estimator. It is VERY inaccurate and often missleading.

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Losing a game is not just about how many prisoners there are. Sometimes it is but that’s only half of a decision maker.

Good perspective.

You resign when you think that there is no way to control more as the half of the board

“The first 60 moves” in a 9x9 game? How big is your 9x9 board?!

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Keep filling the board is actually fairly typical for TPK and beginner’s games

After having played enough games you’ll learn build an intuition on where the match has gone wrong. 9x9 is less forgiving of mistakes, usually one bad move and its over.

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I made some experiments with reverse review on 9x9 with full beginners. You start from the end and ask when things go wrong. As teaching you try to push the beginner to focus on the global picture. The fact is that even if they can’t read or manipulate tactics and such, most of the time their intuition was quite correct and they could find where the things went wrong.

GROIN makes good sense,though not quite sure exactly what they mean, but the jest of it i get about going wrong and when to leave

GAH - you’re absolutely right. I don’t play a lot of 9x9 so that was a flub on my part. I had meant to say “if you’re around the mid-point of a game” which in a 9x9 is probably closer to 20-30 moves…

FOREHEAD SLAP

thanks for being on it. I edited my post below so as to not confuse beginning players any further

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Well … actually, I do recommend that beginners (and generally DDK players) play to the end at least sometimes … because:

  1. how to finish a game also has to be learned, and
  2. endgame is not trivial, especially in 9x9 you can sometimes turn the game around (but that can actually happen any time on 9x9).

But of course I won’t tell you that you “have to” do it in every game :wink:


BTW, in case you ever get frustrated:

I’ve been playing the game for more than 30 years now … last year or the one before I shortly scratched at 4 Kyu — only to fall back, stone by stone, and now I’m back to DDK (double digit Kyu): now I’m 10k again.

So … what shall I say? Sometimes I feel like crying, but hey, I’m old, and only getting older. Add to that the fact that I’m terminally ill, plus (accordingly) suffering from depression … that should explain how such a decline in strength can happen, shouldn’t it?

So … sometimes games have become very painful for me, seeing how I didn’t see it coming, seeing that I’m playing blundering moves I wouldn’t have played a year ago … but mostly, I still enjoy the game.

So … if you ever want to play a game against an “oldoldguy”, hit me up on the game site and we can play a game or three. Take as many Handicap stones as you like, I don’t mind losing against HC.

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i would love to play your experienced mind in go – it wouldn’t be much of a game more like tutorial sort of thing - i will send you a pm about it maybe a three day game would fit?

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Here’s my profile: trohde

There you can also see that I only play correspondence.

BTW, I like to use the “Malkovich Log”, i.e. comments and variations that are only visible to the opponent after the game. I don’t always do it, but sometimes, and it might allow you a peek into my head at the time of my moves.

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I really appreciate the Malkovich Log feature, especially when playing stronger opponents, whose insights can be very helpful after the game finishes.

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i have upped my resigning feature that was at 6 stones different and ian done playing to maybe 8 stones in a 9x9 maybe i will something even though i know i going to lose see if that makes the games more fun