Through the Years: Long Correspondence

I tried to read the whole manual page for tournaments but I couldn’t find this information.
It’s a long page, maybe I missed it. But probably that needs more attention: some bold characters “Timeout implies disqualification

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tl:dr?

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We’re playing in a tournament that’s going to last a long time.

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I didn’t read the whole message.

Must we add 3019 + 1506 + 596?
Are those days?

So it’s more than 5k days? More than 13 years?
I hope this is worst scenario! :grin:

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And all of that is assuming that two players don’t just keep their game paused for years in order to play even slower or even suspend play altogether.

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It’s relatively easy if you just calculate how many days the clock ticks in a week.
Of the 7 days 2 are weekends and both players can use 7/6 days vacation each week. So the remaining time is 7-2-2*7/6=2,666 days per week.
The initial time is 3d blacks start timer + 2 * 28days main time + 2 * 60 days initial vacation time = 179 days. Divided by the 2.66days/week => 67 weeks of initial time without the 7 days per move increment.
The time increment of 7 days results in additional 7/2.6= 2.6 weeks per move.

Of course assuming neither player pause the game.

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Indeed, it’s this easy. I must’ve been pretty out there yesterday.

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3500 games!

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Some rank stats. Data from august 20th (yesterday).

Players vs ranks

Detail for 25k players:

Variable “playerranking” spans from -13 to 39 in this set of players.
Here is my translation:

  • 5 and less: 25k
  • 6 to 29: 24k to 1k
  • 30 to 38: 1d to 9d
  • 39 and more: 9d+

It looks like even 35k (-5) could be meaningful, accordig to the curve.

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er… so what was the answer then?

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The answer is given by flovo

So if 300 moves = 67 weeks + 300 moves x 2.6 weeks/move = 847 weeks = 16-17 years

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Data update:

Total number of participants:          2233
Total number of players in this round: 2233 (100.00%)
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The following data is about the current round only.
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Disqualified or dropped out:            164 (7.34%)
Still competing:                       2069 (92.66%)
Number of groups:                       224
Progress: 3757 games decided out of 10038 (37.43%)
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Max. games decided by a single player:           9
Min. games decided by a single player:           0
Max. games still open for a single player:       9
Min. games still open for a single player:       0
Max. fraction of games done by a single player: 100.00%
Min. fraction of games done by a single player: 0.00%
Number of players having finished all games:    126 (5.64%)
Number of players having finished no games:     366 (16.39%)
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Groups with all games finished:                  1 (0.45%)
Groups with no games finished:                   0 (0.00%)

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The second wave of timeouts is still continuing it seems.

Also we’ve reached a first milestone: Each group has at least one finished game now.

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4000 games finished! Congrats!

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A Milestone: At Least One Move in All Ongoing Games

Today we reached an important milestone. All ongoing games now have at least one move. Of course, to properly start a game of go you need two moves, so we’ll have to wait a little bit more to claim that all the games are started.

In the meantime more than 4000 games were finished although a lot of them by timeout.

Join us at forums for more discussions and stats

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I’m still doing data mining, looking for weirdness and astonishment! :smiley:

I plotted player’s rank against time and found some interesting cases.
We have a bunch of serious sandbaggers! :smiley:
(just joking, I don’t want to blame anybody, just pointing at some strange data)

Here are some big drop in rank.

Felix1003 from 5d to 20k.

earlgreyhot from 9d+ to 5k

Sadaharu from 9d+ to 3d

Aganir from 1k to 6k

But we had also some nice improvement!

janine0010 from 20k to 14K


Sadly she’s disqualified, so we won’t see her improvement in next rounds.

PCG from 21k to 12k

Climbing is harder than falling! :smiley:

There could be some other interesting cases but it’s hard to recognize them in the overall chaos:

(I am so sorry for colourblinds: this must be a complete mess, but I don’t know how to handle this properly)

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I’ll add a usual snapshot of the today’s players and games situation:

and a new attempt at representing data for games results.
Here we have number of players by starting points and actual points. We can see that players with best results (6 and 7 points) are all from the top bar. But we have seven players at 4 points (out of 33) that started from the lowest bar.

This chart should help understanding how McMahon bars work in pushing down lower ranks and keeping competition for best places between top bar’s players.

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Sadaharu and earlgreyhot appear to have abruptly ceased activity on OGS, with mass resignations and mass timeouts. Both of those players were prominent 9 dans, so it’s a terrible loss, if they have left the site for good.

I’m not sure about Felix1003, who has a much shorter history that began only a few months ago. They also seem to have ceased all activity, with mass timeouts recently. However, it appears that nearly all of their games (in their entire history) were annulled. Perhaps this account was banned? I’m guessing this since it appears that annulling their entire history was possibly meant to erase their impact on the ratings system.

Aganir has an odd and short history. They went from practically only winning games to mass resigning a bunch of games. It seems they are no longer active, but I can’t speculate as to why.

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Very useful stuff indeed, thanks. I’m currently in the pink circle of those having started at -4 and currently at 0, with fair hopes to gain at least 3 more points in this round. Two games I should win, another who seems to let all his games time out, and a last one too early in the game to figure. But in the better case where I win 8 out of 9 games in this round, the next one is going to be a real challenge :slight_smile:

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Data update:

Total number of participants:          2233
Total number of players in this round: 2233 (100.00%)
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The following data is about the current round only.
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Disqualified or dropped out:            189 (8.46%)
Still competing:                       2044 (91.54%)
Number of groups:                       224
Progress: 4198 games decided out of 10038 (41.82%)
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Max. games decided by a single player:           9
Min. games decided by a single player:           0
Max. games still open for a single player:       9
Min. games still open for a single player:       0
Max. fraction of games done by a single player: 100.00%
Min. fraction of games done by a single player: 0.00%
Number of players having finished all games:    150 (6.72%)
Number of players having finished no games:     311 (13.93%)
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Groups with all games finished:                  1 (0.45%)
Groups with no games finished:                   0 (0.00%)

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Second disqualification wave is picking up speed.

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This must like a third wave at this point. Because it’s probably not white timing out their second move anymore.

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