How about an extra line for BOTS ALLOWED: YES/NO?
I don’t think this is important.
The creator only needs to indicate in the description whether the bot is allowed to participate.
If a bot participates in a tournament that is not allowed, simply disqualify the bot or report it to the moderator.
The function that is really needed is
Vacation Available: Yes/No
Allow pause: Yes/No
That way I don’t have to worry about whether this is a tournament that doesn’t allow vacations.
It’s unreasonable to deny me a vacation for hundreds of games simply by stating in the tournament description that vacations are not allowed.
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I think that’s emininently reasonable, but I’ve played in Fast Correspondence tournaments before
Otherwise I agree with you that whether or not bots are allowed doesn’t seem to be worthy of a first-class display option
I agree with the no vacation rule in fast correspondence tournaments.
The thing is, there’s no way I can just make it non-vacation, I don’t think that’s reasonable.
OGS only has the option to move all correspondence games to vacation or not.
If there is going to be a no-vacation rule, there has to be a way for me to be alone in this tournament without taking a vacation.
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Why is that unreasonable?
Do you feel OGS should have to implement every custom tournament rule?
I’m not really seeing what’s wrong with having a written rule for a tournament.
Because it affects all my correspondence games.
The rules should only apply to the games in that tournament, not all of my games.
The impact of not being able to take a vacation is global.
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I see what you mean - I hadn’t thought of that.
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Ah, I misunderstood you. I agree that being able to set a tournament or group ladder to disable vacation and/or pausing would be good and avoid a lot of uneccessary headache
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OGS Forumites: how fast can we change the subject from the original topic 
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@LetMeUp kinda hijacked it.
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I’m confused by the original topic of this thread. Since when are bots allowed in human tournaments? Isn’t that a violation of the TOS prohibition of computer help except in computer tournaments?
Edit: A mod should split this topic.
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Tournament organizers can allow bots to participate in a tournament.
Doesn’t happen very often I think.
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Thanks for the info. That violates OGS TOS, but apparently no one cares. Makes one think.
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Where in the TOS? What is prohibited is external help.
We have bots playing on OGS and I don’t remember that it has been written that bots can’t participate in AST (as long as it’s not an help to a registered human player but instead that the bot is itself registered)
Now I can understand that you may not want to play with bots when registering in a tournament.
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I wouldn’t want them in an AST, but group Tournaments and Custom Tournaments are I thought what we were talking about. The latter cases I am fine with (as long as it’s mentioned in the description that bots are allowed, of course)
The great thing about the TOS is you can say whatever you want about them 
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Do you imagine that the bots are volitionally independent, are entering themselves in the tournament? If so, call all the world’s top news media, because that is an earthshaking event. No, humans are entering the bot, and the practical objection to a bot in a tournament is the same as to a human consulting a bot—it distorts the competition. And, if you haven’t noticed, people choose to play bots on an individual basis.
I don’t play tournaments, so I have no horse in this fight. But if I did, I wouldn’t.
If a tournament allows bots to join, it’s not a human tournament, it’s a bot and human tournament.
If so, the bot account shouldn’t exist.
Because no matter what, it was built by humans.
Anyway, here are the rules regarding bot accounts:
It states that what the TOS refers to is that human accounts cannot use AI assistance.
It has been stated that bot accounts are explicitly allowed to join tournaments and ladders.
If you’re going to say that the rules of this page are invalid, then obviously the very existence of a bot account is a violation of the TOS.
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Can you be more obvious? If a tournament doesn’t allow bots to join, it’s a human tournament.
Ah, you can be more obvious.
@Groin was correct about the TOS, and I was mistaken, which I why I didn’t continue down that road in my reply. I do believe there is a moral equivalence, however, and that my philosophical point stands. It is especially appalling that a bot presence in a tournament is apparently surreptitious instead of transparent.
Thankfully, this thread is more or less back on topic.
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This is not true, or not entirely.
Bot accounts may not participate in unlicensed tournaments.
Without saying anything, it is of course a human tournament.
I don’t think so.
Anyone entering a tournament must first read the tournament rules.
A bot account can only participate if it is written in the tournament rules that the bot account can participate, otherwise the bot account cannot participate.
If you participate in a tournament where the rules say that bot accounts can participate, then encountering bots is certainly to be expected.
If someone doesn’t read the tournament rules, that’s of course his problem.
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