Welcoming beginners and OGS rating system (A compendium)

[shinuito]

I’m also interested in beginners, but my opinion is that the current system isn’t that bad

It feels like experienced players believe that the new player experience is bad, and maybe since I don’t read reddit that much maybe there’s more beginners there saying that they don’t like the rating system or something (or maybe they don’t like the scoring or other separate issues). I don’t think the system isn’t working however.

@Groin

Should i remind that even if they restrict their ranks, rated games with other beginners will be denied as being too far from the entrance point?? How incredible.

It feels like you just have a warped view of how you think things are, as opposed to how they actually are?

@shinuito

Similarly people complain that beginners can’t drop in rating fast enough, but I know a new player who’s an absolute beginner that after losing a single game to a 12kyu, was able to play ranked games against 22kyu players for instance the very next game.

^^ here’s a new player, beginner, they lost their first game to a 12kyu, they could match with a 22kyu on their second game and 25kyu on their third for example, and then they started winning games after that too. It wasn’t that bad of an experience from talking to that user.

Similarly

@anoek

@Conrad_Melville

Why not automatch “?” players only against other “?” players?

We actually do do this, but there’s not always another ? rank available. We basically have a system where we wait a short while for a “perfect match up”, then expand our reach and wait for a litle longer for a less perfect but good match up, then expand our reach, etc… until we reach the bounds setup by the user.